April 2005 - crux-devel - lists.crux.nu

[clc-devel] Branched 2.0 ports, please start to tag ports for 2.1
by Johannes Winkelmann 08 Apr '05

08 Apr '05

Hi everybody, I've created a branch from the CONTRIB-2_0 ports in order to allow independent port updates for CRUX 2.0 if this is needed. In order to work on it, do a export CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d <user>@clc.morpheus.net:/home/crux/cvs co -r CRUX-2_0 clc Changes for CRUX 2.0 should only be commited to this branch. In addition, please start tagging the ports for 2.1 (tag: CONTRIB-2_1) using the 2.1rc1 ISO, if you have to chance to do so. It installs and runs fine in qemu [1], a processor emulator which can emulate an x86 machine (amongst others), allowing you to test your ports without freeing up a Vpartition, or updating your production server :-). I recommend to use Jukka's port if you are interested in qemu. Finally, you don't have to do a fresh checkout to tag the ports CONTRIB-2_1; you can continue with your current working copy. Feel free to ask if you have questions or anything's unclear. Kind regards, Johannes P.S. I created the branch from the CONTRIB-2_0 tag, which means that if you commited changes without moving the tag, they're not taken into account. References: 1 http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@tks6.net Bern, Switzerland http://jw.tks6.net

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[clc-devel] prtsync 0.3-2
by Jay Dolan 07 Apr '05

07 Apr '05

Fixes and improvements.. All notifications are sent to at least $mailer. COLLECTION= is no longer required/used in .httpup files. In fact, standard .httpup driver files may be used as-is without problems. However, if EMAIL= is specified in the files, notifications will go to those addresses as well as $mailer. Tag (.sync) files may be ignored with `prtsync -i sync`, or by adjusting ignore_tag_files in /etc/prtsync.conf. This may be of use in the immediate future as we attempt to merge not-yet-tagged repositories. An archive of the merged repository can be updated with `prtsync -a merge`, or by adjusting use_archive in /etc/prtsync.conf. This archive may suppliment initial checkouts, and could eventually be built into the ports(8) httpup driver or httpup(8) itself. The archive is left out of the REPO file for obvious reasons. The merge algorithm is a little smarter and safer all-around. I've successfully synced, merged, and tinkered with repos from Han, cptn, jaeger, and myself. The man(1) page has also been updated. Please test this if you can and report any errors/shortcomings. Han, cptn, jaeger, sorry for any spams you've received in the last couple days :) http://jdolan.dyndns.org/jaydolan/files/jdolan.httpup Jay Dolan Software Engineer, Systems Analyst Windmill Cycles, Inc. 508.999.4000 __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest

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[clc-devel] I'm retiring
by Tilman Sauerbeck 06 Apr '05

06 Apr '05

Hi folks, I'm leaving the CLC team. My primary interest is, and has always been, to provide a few well-maintained ports for CRUX. To be honest, I'm not interested that much in all the stuff that's happening around CRUX and CLC right now, like the development of the new contrib collection, the Subversion switch etc, and I feel bad for it. I shouldn't be a part of CLC if all I want is to provide a bunch of ports, I can do that with httpup and the new contrib collection as well. I'll now move my ports to unmaintained and put those into my httpup repo that aren't picked up by another CLC member in the next few days. -- Regards, Tilman

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[clc-devel] I'm not retiring, but reducing my number of ports...
by Opel Martin 05 Apr '05

05 Apr '05

Hi CLC maintainers, you all will have noticed that I were very rarely online the last months. I changed my job half a year ago and in July my second child will be born. What I want to say: I have not the time to be a good maintainer for 77 ports and a good father for 2 children :) I will tag a first bunch of ports UNMAINTAINED tonight (only ports, without depending ports). If you're interested in taking over one of my other ports, let me know. There's only a little number of ports I want to keep. Bye Martin (obbl). -- Martin Opel, mo at obbl-net dot de Regensburg, Germany

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[clc-devel] New CRUX/CLC website
by Simone Rota 05 Apr '05

05 Apr '05

Hi all, some time ago I offered to help with the crux/clc website merge, I drop you some proposal/idea in case we're going to start to work on the project during the following weeks. I've been evaluating some wiki package during the last days and my preference goes to wikka wiki: http://wikka.jsnx.com/TestSkin for the following reasons: - lightweight but with interesting features - easy to configure/install/manage - graphically customizable (ie: select the "withew.css" skin in the url above) - good support for ACLs, very useful for subprojects - does not require 3rd party software (just plain php+mysql) In my opinion with something like Wikka we could manage the entire CRUX/CLC website in a collaborative manner, and use cvstrac only as a bug tracker. ====== Apart from the choice of software, we cannot really start something without some knowledge about the physical location of the site. Personally I'd be glad to donate some buck myself, buy some webspace and make it accessible to CLC members. We could host there the site, maybe with the following layout: - isos at fukt.bth.se - cvs and ports at morpheus.net - webpages / docs / subprojects at the new site This is a proposal to avoid spending time administering (and securing) a web/db server ourselves, please let me know if there is some interest. As usual comments and further proposals are welcome. Regards, Simone -- Simone Rota WEB : http://www.varlock.com Bergamo, Italy MAIL: sip(a)varlock.com

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[clc-devel] prtsync v0.2
by Jay Dolan 05 Apr '05

05 Apr '05

Johannes, Simone, others.. I've reworked much of prtsync to address some of it's previous shortcomings. I did make an effort to work with jw's fork, but I'm a baby.. I was having a hard time following it. About the only major difference between his version and this one, to CLC, I think, is that this one still uses backwards compatible httpup driver files, rather than a custom config syntax. I just thought it would be easier that way..we're already going to have .httpup files for these collections. So, it seems much more viable now. I hope you'll take a poke at it and let me know what you think. There is a manpage included in the port. Oh.. which is available in my httpup repository ;) Jay Dolan Software Engineer, Systems Analyst Windmill Cycles, Inc. 508.999.4000 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [clc-devel] New CRUX/CLC website
by Jay Dolan 05 Apr '05

05 Apr '05

--- Simone Rota <sip(a)varlock.com> wrote: > Well, I suggested using a 3rd party host for > avoiding the hassle of > the maintainance of another service, but I like the > idea of a > clc machine as well. Count me on for some financial > contribution. > > Since we're on topic, I suggest also to dedicate a > domain or > subdomain for the machine in question (if possible), > so next time > we move the users won't be left alone in the cold :) > Better again, using different subdomains (pointing > to the same machine > for now) such as ports.crux.nu, dev.crux.nu, etc > would facilitate > eventual future re-locations or addition of other > machines. > > P.S. I don't remember what were Per's plan regarding > the crux.nu > domain and if we'd have to register a new one. > Crux-linux.org is available. And I agree with your subdomain idea. Jay Dolan Software Engineer, Systems Analyst Windmill Cycles, Inc. 508.999.4000 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

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Re: [clc-devel] New CRUX/CLC website
by Jay Dolan 05 Apr '05

05 Apr '05

--- Johannes Winkelmann <jw(a)tks6.net> wrote: > Hey, > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 19:47:39 +0200, Simone Rota > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > some time ago I offered to help with the crux/clc > website merge, > > I drop you some proposal/idea in case we're going > to start to work on > > the project during the following weeks. > > > > I've been evaluating some wiki package during the > last days > > and my preference goes to wikka wiki: > > > > http://wikka.jsnx.com/TestSkin > I used wikka before, and it would certainly be a > good wiki for our > purpose. I also set up a MediaWiki (the thing befind > Wikipedia) which > was very simple, too (didn't look into ACLs and the > like, though). > > > In my opinion with something like Wikka we could > manage the entire > > CRUX/CLC website in a collaborative manner, and > use cvstrac only as a > > bug tracker. > Agreed. I'd also like to see subprojects appearing > there, like amd64, or > the mono ports if those guys manage to form a group > :-) > > > > Apart from the choice of software, we cannot > really start something > > without some knowledge about the physical location > of the site. > Jay mentioned on IRC that he might help us here, > since he has some > connections to a local university (I hope I remember > that correctly). > Jay, can you elaborate on this? Sure. I'm 90% confident that it would not be a problem at all for me to drop a box on UMass Dartmouth's T1. I can also probably convince my boss to donate some older hardware (something like a P3 700, 256MB) to the project. I live about 10 minutes from the university, and am still in contact with several of my professors. So handling hardware malfunctions in a timely manner wouldn't be terribly difficult. It would be completely free. The only problems we'd have to deal with would be power outages, etc..maybe twice a year. What I'd like to do, if we persue this, is get the machine up and running and drop it on the line. Then give root to those of you who require it (jw, jaeger, pli, sip..). You guys could then work your magic and get whatever else the box needs installed and running. I started thinking of this idea back at CruxCon, when we spoke of merging the CLC/Crux.nu websites. To me, it only makes sense that we'd be better off with our very own box..rather than dealing with someone else's hosting policies. Just an idea. Let me know if you wish for me to persue it further. Jay Dolan Software Engineer, Systems Analyst Windmill Cycles, Inc. 508.999.4000 __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest

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Re: [clc-devel] New CRUX/CLC website
by Jay Dolan 05 Apr '05

05 Apr '05

--- Matt Housh <jaeger(a)morpheus.net> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 16:39 +0200, Johannes > Winkelmann wrote: > > This sounds great; maybe we can collect some money > for additional RAM > > and a RAID setup. > > WRT to power outages, we should work out a concept > for mirroring, maybe > > even with ports(8) supporting a fallback-server; I > don't mind when > > development stops for a few days, what matters > more is that users can > > get the ports from somewhere. > > I like this idea and will be happy to donate some > money for hardware > upgrades if needed; especially since morpheus.net > may be moving soon, to > a colocation facility in dallas, which is 4 hours > south from me. That's > not so much a problem since I do go down there every > now and then and my > co-admin lives there. What *might* be a problem is > that we WILL have a > bandwidth limit if we host the server there. I don't > know the details on > the colocation plan yet and it's not set in stone... > but as I said when > we moved clc to morpheus.net, it might not be a > permanent solution. Not > that I'm against hosting it, it just seems like > Jay's solution is a > better one in this case. > > </ramble> > > Matt (jaeger@freenode/#crux) > I've mailed my old professor about the idea. I should hear back from him shortly. I used to actually have 3 machines in a server closet there, for a Quake gaming site (QMass.net) Seeing as tho this is a much more educationally-oriented project, I can't see how they'd be opposed :) I'll work on my boss re: hardware. Just a site note, I actually have a little box in my apartment (jdolan.dyndns.org) It's a Celeron 533/128MB, with a 40GB EIDE drive. Nothing spectacular..I use it for NFS, rsync backups, and hosting a couple small, static sites (jaydolan.com) If, depending on CRUX's requirements, I could still host my personal crap there (~/public_html style, or something), I'd be happy to donate that machine myself. The only thing I'd buy for it would be a better power supply. Save on my electric bill if I moved it elsewhere ;) Jay Dolan Software Engineer, Systems Analyst Windmill Cycles, Inc. 508.999.4000 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com

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[clc-devel] [CLC Ticket Notification] nautilus-test-view still exist
by crux＠morpheus.net 05 Apr '05

05 Apr '05

Assigned to [clc-devel(a)lists.berlios.de] The following CLC ticket (72) has been created or modified: Description: --disable-test-view does not work correctly. I still got this test-view in nautilus. My patch just deletes the non-needed files. Thanks. Remarks: Contact: pazo at shiba dk CLC User: anonymous Status: new URL: http://clc.morpheus.net:6999/clc/tktview?tn=72

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