Hi there, As you might know many packages in unmaintained are outdated or even non-functional. Some of them have never versions in httpup repositories. We keep getting bug reports against those unmaintained ports, which means that some of us have to look after those ports (or defer the bug reports). I've been discussing with Juergen what the goal of CLC is; the choices were: 1. Have ports which we actively maintain 2. Have ports which seem important for a linux distribution The initial goal of CLC was to do the first of the two; as a consequence of this, we should not serve ports we don't maintain actively. Some time ago, having a collection like clc/unstable or unmaintained made sense since there was no alternative way to share ports. This is not the case anymore, and we could go back to follow goal #1 again. There is a certain need for ports which are "not quite ready" for contrib but are maintained by us. I'd therefore propose to drop unmaintained and start a new collection called 'testing'; ports which require further testing (both when the port or the ported software isn't stable) go there, but it should be our goal to move it to contrib or remove it altogether. 'testing' shouldn't be consider a permanent place for ports. Either they're fine for CLC, or they're not. Note that this would mean that we wouldn't have GNOME in our tree anymore, since rrm3 isn't around. IMO this would be the right consequence when a maintainer leaves, and we shouldn't try to keep the ports around but to find a new maintainer for them. Riders of Rohan, eerm, maintainers from CLC, Please discuss, comment or at least state whether you are in favor or against this step. Best regards, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@tks6.net Bern, Switzerland http://jw.tks6.net