Hi guys, fontconfig 2.4 has been released recently, and I just updated opt/fontconfig accordingly. I didn't commit the changes yet, though, because I don't run opt/x11 and thus I cannot test whether it will work for xorg 6.8. Can someone please test the attached diff with opt/x11? Thanks. I don't expect breakage, but better safe than sorry. (This situation sucks a bit. If anyone thinks this sucks too much, let me know and I'll see to install X11R6 here as well.) Point 2: fontconfig's configuration scheme has been extended. Instead of putting all kinds of settings into local.conf, fontconfig how ships with a set of configuration files (/etc/fonts/conf.avail) that can be symlinked to /etc/fonts/conf.d to enable them. This means that only more exotic settings will have to be made via local.conf, for the usual suspects, you can just symlink the file. This somewhat collides with pkgutils' upgrade feature though. Imagine that after installation, you removed some of these symlinks to adjust fontconfig to your needs. Then, a few months later, you upgrade fontconfig to the latest version, and it will install the symlinks again :x Is this acceptable? Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
On Sat, 2006-09-16 at 13:33 +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Hi guys, fontconfig 2.4 has been released recently, and I just updated opt/fontconfig accordingly.
I didn't commit the changes yet, though, because I don't run opt/x11 and thus I cannot test whether it will work for xorg 6.8. Can someone please test the attached diff with opt/x11? Thanks. I don't expect breakage, but better safe than sorry. (This situation sucks a bit. If anyone thinks this sucks too much, let me know and I'll see to install X11R6 here as well.)
I've been using it for a couple of days too (and now 2.4.1) without any problems whatsoever. But I'm also not using X11R6 :( The lack of replies sort of begs the question of when your xorg ports will move into the official repos.
fontconfig's configuration scheme has been extended. Instead of putting all kinds of settings into local.conf, fontconfig how ships with a set of configuration files (/etc/fonts/conf.avail) that can be symlinked to /etc/fonts/conf.d to enable them. This means that only more exotic settings will have to be made via local.conf, for the usual suspects, you can just symlink the file.
This somewhat collides with pkgutils' upgrade feature though. Imagine that after installation, you removed some of these symlinks to adjust fontconfig to your needs. Then, a few months later, you upgrade fontconfig to the latest version, and it will install the symlinks again :x
Is this acceptable?
Perhaps that "INSTALL ... NO" feature you've added to pkgutils could be used for more than just junk files :)
Mark Rosenstand [2006-09-17 00:33]:
On Sat, 2006-09-16 at 13:33 +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
fontconfig's configuration scheme has been extended. Instead of putting all kinds of settings into local.conf, fontconfig how ships with a set of configuration files (/etc/fonts/conf.avail) that can be symlinked to /etc/fonts/conf.d to enable them. This means that only more exotic settings will have to be made via local.conf, for the usual suspects, you can just symlink the file.
This somewhat collides with pkgutils' upgrade feature though. Imagine that after installation, you removed some of these symlinks to adjust fontconfig to your needs. Then, a few months later, you upgrade fontconfig to the latest version, and it will install the symlinks again :x
Is this acceptable?
Perhaps that "INSTALL ... NO" feature you've added to pkgutils could be used for more than just junk files :)
Good idea, I didn't think of that. README could tell the user about preventing fontconfig of installing the symlinks, if he wants to keep his config. And README should probably contain a bunch of "ln" commands to set up the config as intended by fontconfig's install target. Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
Hi, On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:33:02 +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Mark Rosenstand [2006-09-17 00:33]: [...]
Perhaps that "INSTALL ... NO" feature you've added to pkgutils could be used for more than just junk files :)
Good idea, I didn't think of that. README could tell the user about preventing fontconfig of installing the symlinks, if he wants to keep his config. And README should probably contain a bunch of "ln" commands to set up the config as intended by fontconfig's install target.
To me, suggesting to use "INSTALL NO" on a per port level sounds like use flags, which isn't really what I think that particular feature should be about. If this appears to be the recommended way to handle such problems, I fear people will start to use that all over their ports ("oh, and if you don't want that additional icon theme the port installs and I like just "INSTALL NO" it), which make pkgadd.conf and port installation in general a pain. Regards, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@smts.ch Zurich, Switzerland http://jw.smts.ch
On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 11:09 +0200, Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:33:02 +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Mark Rosenstand [2006-09-17 00:33]: [...]
Perhaps that "INSTALL ... NO" feature you've added to pkgutils could be used for more than just junk files :)
Good idea, I didn't think of that. README could tell the user about preventing fontconfig of installing the symlinks, if he wants to keep his config. And README should probably contain a bunch of "ln" commands to set up the config as intended by fontconfig's install target.
To me, suggesting to use "INSTALL NO" on a per port level sounds like use flags, which isn't really what I think that particular feature should be about.
If this appears to be the recommended way to handle such problems, I fear people will start to use that all over their ports ("oh, and if you don't want that additional icon theme the port installs and I like just "INSTALL NO" it), which make pkgadd.conf and port installation in general a pain.
You forgot to mention the proper fix.
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 12:33:19AM +0200, Mark Rosenstand wrote:
On Sat, 2006-09-16 at 13:33 +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Hi guys, fontconfig 2.4 has been released recently, and I just updated opt/fontconfig accordingly.
I didn't commit the changes yet, though, because I don't run opt/x11 and thus I cannot test whether it will work for xorg 6.8. Can someone please test the attached diff with opt/x11? Thanks. I don't expect breakage, but better safe than sorry. (This situation sucks a bit. If anyone thinks this sucks too much, let me know and I'll see to install X11R6 here as well.)
I've been using it for a couple of days too (and now 2.4.1) without any problems whatsoever. But I'm also not using X11R6 :(
Means your reply is pointless. Jürgen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue@jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux
On Sun, 2006-09-17 at 11:44 +0200, Juergen Daubert wrote:
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 12:33:19AM +0200, Mark Rosenstand wrote:
On Sat, 2006-09-16 at 13:33 +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Hi guys, fontconfig 2.4 has been released recently, and I just updated opt/fontconfig accordingly.
I didn't commit the changes yet, though, because I don't run opt/x11 and thus I cannot test whether it will work for xorg 6.8. Can someone please test the attached diff with opt/x11? Thanks. I don't expect breakage, but better safe than sorry. (This situation sucks a bit. If anyone thinks this sucks too much, let me know and I'll see to install X11R6 here as well.)
I've been using it for a couple of days too (and now 2.4.1) without any problems whatsoever. But I'm also not using X11R6 :(
Means your reply is pointless.
With your very selective cutting, yes. However if you continued to read, you'd see "The lack of replies sort of begs the question of when your xorg ports will move into the official repos." as well as a suggestion on how to handle the config structure changes. If you cannot understand a simple statement like that, it would be better for all of us if you forbear posting to this list in the future.
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 01:53:13PM +0200, Mark Rosenstand wrote:
On Sun, 2006-09-17 at 11:44 +0200, Juergen Daubert wrote:
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 12:33:19AM +0200, Mark Rosenstand wrote:
On Sat, 2006-09-16 at 13:33 +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Hi guys, fontconfig 2.4 has been released recently, and I just updated opt/fontconfig accordingly.
I didn't commit the changes yet, though, because I don't run opt/x11 and thus I cannot test whether it will work for xorg 6.8. Can someone please test the attached diff with opt/x11? Thanks. I don't expect breakage, but better safe than sorry. (This situation sucks a bit. If anyone thinks this sucks too much, let me know and I'll see to install X11R6 here as well.)
I've been using it for a couple of days too (and now 2.4.1) without any problems whatsoever. But I'm also not using X11R6 :(
Means your reply is pointless.
With your very selective cutting, yes. However if you continued to read, you'd see "The lack of replies sort of begs the question of when your xorg ports will move into the official repos." as well as a suggestion on how to handle the config structure changes.
Oh, seems I read over that, apologies.
If you cannot understand a simple statement like that, it would be better for all of us if you forbear posting to this list in the future.
Nice sentence, thanks for the hint. Jürgen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue@jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 01:33:54PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Hi guys,
Hello Tilman,
fontconfig 2.4 has been released recently, and I just updated opt/fontconfig accordingly.
I didn't commit the changes yet, though, because I don't run opt/x11 and thus I cannot test whether it will work for xorg 6.8. Can someone please test the attached diff with opt/x11? Thanks. I don't expect breakage, but better safe than sorry.
I got a footprint error: NEW lrwxrwxrwx root/root etc/fonts/conf.d/10-autohint.conf -> ../conf.avail/10-autohint.conf At all, fontconfig 2.4.1 2.4.1 seems to work well. regards Jürgen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue@jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 13:33:54 +0200 Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Hi guys, fontconfig 2.4 has been released recently, and I just updated opt/fontconfig accordingly.
I didn't commit the changes yet, though, because I don't run opt/x11 and thus I cannot test whether it will work for xorg 6.8. Can someone please test the attached diff with opt/x11? Thanks. I don't expect breakage, but better safe than sorry.
I'm running fontconfig-2.4.1 and opt/x11-6.9.0-4, no problems so far. I didn't use your diff, though, just updated fontconfig port from opt. I'll rebuild x11 to 6.9.0-5, but I don't think that would make any difference. HTH Pedja -- My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them. --ningo at #crux
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Johannes Winkelmann
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Juergen Daubert
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Mark Rosenstand
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Predrag Ivanovic
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Tilman Sauerbeck