Hey, After some discussion with those involved in server maintenance, I'd like to suggest Simone to be the initial leader/coordinator for the infrastructure team; he has done a lot of work, both on the web components (wiki/bugtracking/svnweb) and general setup. Just to elaborate on that job: it's not meant to give him great power, but to make sure that there's a central person to coordinate changes and take decisions if someone else on the team is uncertain how to do it. It's more of a "coaching" job really. That said, we need coaches for the 'ports' team as well as for the 'core' team. CRUX maintainers, please submit your nominations :-). Thanks for your cooperation, Johannes P.S. http://crux.nu/Main/TeamReorganization contains some more info -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@smts.ch Zurich, Switzerland http://jw.smts.ch
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 14:39:19 +0200, Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
Hey, [...] Just to elaborate on that job: it's not meant to give him great power, but to make sure that there's a central person to coordinate changes and take decisions if someone else on the team is uncertain how to do it. It's more of a "coaching" job really.
One comment here: a gentoo developer has written an interesting note about democracy in their project since their founder (Daniel Robbins) left; makes an interesting read: http://spyderous.livejournal.com/80869.html I also consider his notes on FreeBSD's committer rules and Ubuntu's code of conduct pretty interesting. Thanks, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@smts.ch Zurich, Switzerland http://jw.smts.ch
On 08/27/06 14:39 Johannes Winkelmann wrote: Hi,
That said, we need coaches for the 'ports' team as well as for the 'core' team. CRUX maintainers, please submit your nominations :-).
Exchanging the favour, I nominate Johannes for the core team leader role, given his hard work so far on everyting CRUX related and his great programming skills. A little clarification on nominations: we haven't formally discussed them, so together with specifying your preference please let us know if you'd like to lead one of the teams! Regards, Simone -- Simone Rota Bergamo, Italy - http://www.varlock.com
Simone Rota [2006-08-27 17:58]:
On 08/27/06 14:39 Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
That said, we need coaches for the 'ports' team as well as for the 'core' team. CRUX maintainers, please submit your nominations :-).
Exchanging the favour, I nominate Johannes for the core team leader role, given his hard work so far on everyting CRUX related and his great programming skills.
I second this nomination :) Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 05:58:30PM +0200, Simone Rota wrote:
On 08/27/06 14:39 Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
Hi,
That said, we need coaches for the 'ports' team as well as for the 'core' team. CRUX maintainers, please submit your nominations :-).
Exchanging the favour, I nominate Johannes for the core team leader role, given his hard work so far on everyting CRUX related and his great programming skills.
Yep, I definitely second this nomination :-) regards Jürgen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue@jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
Hey,
After some discussion with those involved in server maintenance, I'd like to suggest Simone to be the initial leader/coordinator for the infrastructure team; he has done a lot of work, both on the web components (wiki/bugtracking/svnweb) and general setup.
I second your suggestion. Thanks, Simone, for doing the job. regards Jürgen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue@jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
After some discussion with those involved in server maintenance, I'd like to suggest Simone to be the initial leader/coordinator for the infrastructure team; he has done a lot of work, both on the web components (wiki/bugtracking/svnweb) and general setup.
Simone as the leader of the infrastructure team and Johannes as the leader of the core team. Sounds good! Regards Viper
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
Hey,
Hello CRUX maintainers, [...]
That said, we need coaches for the 'ports' team as well as for the 'core' team. CRUX maintainers, please submit your nominations :-).
I'd like to nominate Tilman for the ports-team leader role. As we have nominations for all teams now, either take the chance to vote or come up with other nominations, please ;-) Our current status is as follows: Team Nominated Votes Sum ------------------------------------ Infra-team Simone 3 +3 Core-team Johannes 4 +4 Port-team Tilman 1 +1 Thanks for your cooperation, Jürgen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue@jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux
On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 19:04 +0200, Juergen Daubert wrote:
Hello CRUX maintainers,
[...]
That said, we need coaches for the 'ports' team as well as for the 'core' team. CRUX maintainers, please submit your nominations :-).
I'd like to nominate Tilman for the ports-team leader role. As we have nominations for all teams now, either take the chance to vote or come up with other nominations, please ;-)
+0 (as I'm not a maintainer) Tilman is probably one of the maintainers I've had to interact with the most, and every time he has come to a nice solution. The first time was when I found it weird that X11R7 installed in /usr/X11R6 - he agreed and changed all the ports to install in /usr. This shows that he's not afraid to change stuff (even if it requires some amount of work) if it makes sense. Another time I missed man-pages for git - after upstream rejected my request to include pre-formatted man-pages in their tarballs (they use asciidoc which makes an awful dependency chain), Tilman made a patch to build seperate tarballs for man-pages and html docs on "make dist" which upstream then accepted. I think this shows what a wonderful bridge Tilman is between CRUX users and annoying upstream developers.
Hi Jürgen, On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 19:04:50 +0200, Juergen Daubert wrote:
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
Hey,
Hello CRUX maintainers,
[...]
That said, we need coaches for the 'ports' team as well as for the 'core' team. CRUX maintainers, please submit your nominations :-).
I'd like to nominate Tilman for the ports-team leader role.
Thanks for the nomination. I'm convinced Tilman will do a good job, and definitely support jue's proposal. Regards, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@smts.ch Zurich, Switzerland http://jw.smts.ch
Hi, A quick update on this subject: On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 19:04:50 +0200, Juergen Daubert wrote: [...]
Our current status is as follows:
Team Nominated Votes Sum ------------------------------------ Infra-team Simone 3 +3 Core-team Johannes 4 +4 Port-team Tilman 3 +3 [numbers adjusted]
I hope everyone's fine with this result, so I'd say let's start it like this. I'd like to suggest renaming the "core team" to "system team", since we already have the "core maintainers". Comments? Kind regards, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@smts.ch Zurich, Switzerland http://jw.smts.ch
Johannes Winkelmann [2006-09-06 09:31]:
I'd like to suggest renaming the "core team" to "system team", since we already have the "core maintainers".
Good idea, the naming clash might be confusing. Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
participants (6)
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Johannes Winkelmann
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Juergen Daubert
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Mark Rosenstand
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Simon Gloßner
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Simone Rota
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Tilman Sauerbeck