Hi, this has been brought up a couple of times already, but we never thought it was a big enough issue. Here it goes again: /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive is huge. With every glibc release it's growing some more. On this x86_64 system which runs glibc 2.7, locale-archive is 75 MB. That's just enough my personal pain threshold :P IMO with the next CRUX release, we should switch glibc from building it's huge /usr/lib/locale and instead ask users to build just the locales that they need. It should be just one more command to run after installing CRUX: $ localedef -i de_DE -f UTF-8 de_DE.utf8 Objections? Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:41:42PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
locale-archive is 75 MB. That's just enough my personal pain threshold :P
Ouch. I have previously stuck my head in the sand when pkgmk installed these files...
It should be just one more command to run after installing CRUX: $ localedef -i de_DE -f UTF-8 de_DE.utf8
Objections?
Just as long as its properly documented. +1 /Fredrik ------ This email was spied upon by FRA - Sweden's own STASI. Enjoy!
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:41:42 +0200 Tilman Sauerbeck <tilman@crux.nu> wrote:
IMO with the next CRUX release, we should switch glibc from building it's huge /usr/lib/locale and instead ask users to build just the locales that they need.
+1 It's gotten to a point where it takes almost as long to generate all the locales than it does to build glibc. -- Lucas Hazel <lucas@die.net.au>
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:41:42PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Hi, this has been brought up a couple of times already, but we never thought it was a big enough issue. Here it goes again:
/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive is huge. With every glibc release it's growing some more. On this x86_64 system which runs glibc 2.7, locale-archive is 75 MB. That's just enough my personal pain threshold :P
IMO with the next CRUX release, we should switch glibc from building it's huge /usr/lib/locale and instead ask users to build just the locales that they need.
+1
It should be just one more command to run after installing CRUX: $ localedef -i de_DE -f UTF-8 de_DE.utf8
Arch has some support stuff for that [1], might be worth looking at it. Greetings Juergen [1] http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/glibc/repos/core-i686/[1] -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue@jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux
Juergen Daubert [2008-07-21 09:46]:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:41:42PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Hi, this has been brought up a couple of times already, but we never thought it was a big enough issue. Here it goes again:
/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive is huge. With every glibc release it's growing some more. On this x86_64 system which runs glibc 2.7, locale-archive is 75 MB. That's just enough my personal pain threshold :P
IMO with the next CRUX release, we should switch glibc from building it's huge /usr/lib/locale and instead ask users to build just the locales that they need.
+1
It should be just one more command to run after installing CRUX: $ localedef -i de_DE -f UTF-8 de_DE.utf8
Arch has some support stuff for that [1], might be worth looking at it.
I had a real quick look and I wonder whether it's necessary for us :D Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 06:17:22PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Juergen Daubert [2008-07-21 09:46]:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:41:42PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Hi, this has been brought up a couple of times already, but we never thought it was a big enough issue. Here it goes again:
/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive is huge. With every glibc release it's growing some more. On this x86_64 system which runs glibc 2.7, locale-archive is 75 MB. That's just enough my personal pain threshold :P
IMO with the next CRUX release, we should switch glibc from building it's huge /usr/lib/locale and instead ask users to build just the locales that they need.
+1
It should be just one more command to run after installing CRUX: $ localedef -i de_DE -f UTF-8 de_DE.utf8
Arch has some support stuff for that [1], might be worth looking at it.
I had a real quick look and I wonder whether it's necessary for us :D
I'd say no. Most people need only few locales so calling localedef direct, as you mentioned above, isn't a big issue. But we have to document that the handbook IMO. regards Juergen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue@jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux
Hi Tilman, On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 22:41:42 +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Hi, this has been brought up a couple of times already, but we never thought it was a big enough issue. Here it goes again: Thanks for bringing it up again then :-).
IMO with the next CRUX release, we should switch glibc from building it's huge /usr/lib/locale and instead ask users to build just the locales that they need.
It should be just one more command to run after installing CRUX: $ localedef -i de_DE -f UTF-8 de_DE.utf8
Objections? None, I'd welcome this change. That said, it would be nice if we had an update FAQ page in place before that, so we can point to it whenever problems related to that come up :-).
Cheers, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@smts.ch Zurich, Switzerland http://jw.smts.ch
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:41:42 +0200 Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
Hi, this has been brought up a couple of times already, but we never thought it was a big enough issue. Here it goes again:
/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive is huge. With every glibc release it's growing some more. On this x86_64 system which runs glibc 2.7, locale-archive is 75 MB. That's just enough my personal pain threshold :P
IMO with the next CRUX release, we should switch glibc from building it's huge /usr/lib/locale and instead ask users to build just the locales that they need.
It should be just one more command to run after installing CRUX: $ localedef -i de_DE -f UTF-8 de_DE.utf8
Objections?
Regards, Tilman
I've been doing this with my glibc port for a long, long time now. This includes locale-gen and other things which make mass-generation of locale's easier. -- ~predatorfreak GnuPG Public key: http://pred.dcaf-security.org/dcafsec-pub-gpgkey.asc
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Brett Goulder -
Fredrik Rinnestam -
Johannes Winkelmann -
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Lucas Hazel -
Tilman Sauerbeck