[clc-devel] Re: [bug report] j2sdk: remove/change mozilla plugin link
Hey, Simone brought up an interesting point: On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 05:58:45 +0100, clc-devel@berlios.de wrote:
Description: Should the plugin link for j2sdk be moved into /usr/lib/firebird/plugins, since its the default browser? Note: j2sdk still creates a symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.
Another option is to separate the ports (see firebird-acroread-plugin). Well, this could be an option :-) Certainly looks cool.
I know that Jürgen's j2re Port creates a symlink for firebird, so I'm wondering whether we should drop this from j2sdk completely and use j2re for plugin functionality. Another problem is that I can't find public downloads for J2SE (j2sdk), and I was wondering what to do about this... should we use blackdown's JDK (which is based on Sun's JDK) exclusively, or provide an up to date port without download possibility? Regards, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@tks6.net Bern, Switzerland http://jw.tks6.net
On 01/30/04 09:45 Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
I know that Jürgen's j2re Port creates a symlink for firebird, so I'm wondering whether we should drop this from j2sdk completely and use j2re for plugin functionality.
I'll maintain both the firebird-jre-plugin and firebird-jsdk-plugin, since it's a trivial task, as soon as we decide what to do regarding the following point.
Another problem is that I can't find public downloads for J2SE (j2sdk), and I was wondering what to do about this... should we use blackdown's JDK (which is based on Sun's JDK) exclusively, or provide an up to date port without download possibility?
Anyone has some direct experience and can compare the two versions regarding firebird/mozilla compatibility, general speed and stability? If blackdown performs well I could personally live with a slightly outdated release; other opinions? Regards, Simone -- Simone Rota WEB : http://www.varlock.com Bergamo, Italy MAIL: sip@varlock.com
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 07:16:33PM +0100, Simone Rota wrote:
On 01/30/04 09:45 Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
I know that Jürgen's j2re Port creates a symlink for firebird, so I'm wondering whether we should drop this from j2sdk completely and use j2re for plugin functionality.
I'll maintain both the firebird-jre-plugin and firebird-jsdk-plugin, since it's a trivial task, as soon as we decide what to do regarding the following point.
I'd included the blackdown j2re because the sun's mozilla plugin doesn't work with CRUX. But nowadays this is deprecated. Most comprehensive would be to have only one java port, in this case the j2sdk of course.
Another problem is that I can't find public downloads for J2SE (j2sdk), and I was wondering what to do about this... should we use blackdown's JDK (which is based on Sun's JDK) exclusively, or provide an up to date port without download possibility?
Anyone has some direct experience and can compare the two versions regarding firebird/mozilla compatibility, general speed and stability? If blackdown performs well I could personally live with a slightly outdated release; other opinions?
Yes, I agree, but are not able to do this comparison, hopefully we have some java guru in our team ;) Greetings Jürgen -- juergen.daubert@t-online.de
On 02/01/04 12:27 Juergen Daubert wrote:
I'd included the blackdown j2re because the sun's mozilla plugin doesn't work with CRUX. But nowadays this is deprecated. Most comprehensive would be to have only one java port, in this case the j2sdk of course.
I personally won't mind having only the j2skd port since I'd use it anyway. Yet it could be considered a not-so-small overhead for people only wanting the plugin or the vm, expecially for the ones with a slow connection, since the size difference is notable. Just a consideration, I'm quite neutral on this topic. -- Simone Rota WEB : http://www.varlock.com Bergamo, Italy MAIL: sip@varlock.com
Hey, On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 09:45:15 +0100, Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
Hey,
Simone brought up an interesting point:
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 05:58:45 +0100, clc-devel@berlios.de wrote:
Description: Should the plugin link for j2sdk be moved into /usr/lib/firebird/plugins, since its the default browser? Note: j2sdk still creates a symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. OK, I removed it now.
Another option is to separate the ports (see firebird-acroread-plugin). Well, this could be an option :-) Certainly looks cool. Should we use a common plugin structure (/usr/lib/java/plugins/) so such a plugin could work with both j2sdk and j2re? this way, it could depend on j2re (so plugin users have a minimal download), while developer who probably understand that j2re is included in j2sdk is fine too?
Opinions? Regards, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@tks6.net Bern, Switzerland http://jw.tks6.net
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/11/04 09:39 Johannes Winkelmann wrote: | Hey, Hi Johannes, |>Note: j2sdk still creates a symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. | | OK, I removed it now. Uhm, I see an empty .footprint. Someting wrong with the update :)? |>>Another option is to separate the ports (see firebird-acroread-plugin). |> |>Well, this could be an option :-) Certainly looks cool. | | Should we use a common plugin structure (/usr/lib/java/plugins/) so such | a plugin could work with both j2sdk and j2re? this way, it could depend | on j2re (so plugin users have a minimal download), while developer who | probably understand that j2re is included in j2sdk is fine too? | | Opinions? | Regards, Johannes The idea of a single plugin instead of two as I suggested before is fine for me. I won't change paths in j2(whatever) ports, but make the firefox plugin something like this: if there's j2re links to that else if there's j2sdk use that else don't do anything (footprint mismatch) Regards, Simone - -- Simone Rota WEB : http://www.varlock.com Bergamo, Italy MAIL: sip@varlock.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAKid58+whKqEdwqMRAjpEAJ9/97oliUEatfUOEaa8Ee+mVLR/GACgkB+Q XG3u2YiJTeLsDJXuNQn2E3M= =DZ+J -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 02:00:41PM +0100, Simone Rota wrote:
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On 02/11/04 09:39 Johannes Winkelmann wrote: | Hey,
Hi Johannes,
|>Note: j2sdk still creates a symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. | | OK, I removed it now.
Same for j2re
Uhm, I see an empty .footprint. Someting wrong with the update :)?
|>>Another option is to separate the ports (see firebird-acroread-plugin). |> |>Well, this could be an option :-) Certainly looks cool. | | Should we use a common plugin structure (/usr/lib/java/plugins/) so such | a plugin could work with both j2sdk and j2re? this way, it could depend | on j2re (so plugin users have a minimal download), while developer who | probably understand that j2re is included in j2sdk is fine too? | | Opinions? | Regards, Johannes
The idea of a single plugin instead of two as I suggested before is fine for me. I won't change paths in j2(whatever) ports, but make the firefox plugin something like this: if there's j2re links to that else if there's j2sdk use that else don't do anything (footprint mismatch)
fine for me Greetings Jürgen -- juergen.daubert@t-online.de
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/12/04 08:26 Juergen Daubert wrote: |>I won't change paths in j2(whatever) ports, but make the firefox plugin |>something like this: |>if there's j2re links to that |>else if there's j2sdk use that |>else don't do anything (footprint mismatch) | | | fine for me | Ok, it's in cvs as firefox-java-plugin. I'll tag it contrib when there's a firefox port in opt. Just a couple of notes: - - Had to use Juergen's mythical footprint hack (see ghostscript). - - will j2re become part of contrib? I don't think it's a good ~ thing to have contrib ports depending on unmaintained ones. ~ I see Juergen's name in the Maintainer field, I guess j2re ~ is a "more maintained" than the usual umaintained ports, ~ so it could be ok this way. - - the firefox-java-plugin could fail to build if there are both ~ j2re and j2sdk installed, depending on the order of installation, ~ since they both link /usr/lib/java. While it's possible to see ~ what port has precedence, I feel it's unnecessary for the moment. Regards, Simone - -- Simone Rota WEB : http://www.varlock.com Bergamo, Italy MAIL: sip@varlock.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAK2Q38+whKqEdwqMRAum4AJoDyqDYWvS2T3yWEgt3bCJV3+iLhQCfevM3 Q9f/bdMK2YeeHEuCv6wvyVc= =55al -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hi Simone, On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 12:32:07 +0100, Simone Rota wrote:
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On 02/12/04 08:26 Juergen Daubert wrote:
|>I won't change paths in j2(whatever) ports, but make the firefox plugin |>something like this: |>if there's j2re links to that |>else if there's j2sdk use that |>else don't do anything (footprint mismatch) | | | fine for me |
Ok, it's in cvs as firefox-java-plugin. I'll tag it contrib when there's a firefox port in opt. Great, thanks!
jw -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@tks6.net Bern, Switzerland http://jw.tks6.net
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 12:32:07PM +0100, Simone Rota wrote: [...]
Ok, it's in cvs as firefox-java-plugin. I'll tag it contrib when there's a firefox port in opt.
Thanks !
Just a couple of notes:
- - Had to use Juergen's mythical footprint hack (see ghostscript).
- - will j2re become part of contrib? I don't think it's a good ~ thing to have contrib ports depending on unmaintained ones. ~ I see Juergen's name in the Maintainer field, I guess j2re ~ is a "more maintained" than the usual umaintained ports, ~ so it could be ok this way.
Yep, you're rigth ;) But in this case that's not fine, I'll move the port to contrib. Greetings Jürgen -- juergen.daubert@t-online.de
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