[clc-devel] CRUX mascot?
Hi there, I know this isn't exactly a top priority, but what about having our own mascot? I was thinking of a moose* such as (merely for giving an idea): http://www.varlock.com/images/moose01.jpg or http://www.varlock.com/images/moose02.jpg but in SVG format and painted with a style close to the gimp's wilber: http://www.varlock.com/images/wilber.png I have a couple of friends that are very good artists and would be happy (I hope!) to contribute. What do you think about the idea? Regards, Simone * I've heard they live in Sweden, even if I didn't see any in Stockholm Center :) -- Simone Rota WEB : http://www.varlock.com Bergamo, Italy MAIL: sip@varlock.com
Simone Rota wrote:
Hi there,
I know this isn't exactly a top priority, but what about having our own mascot?
I was thinking of a moose* such as (merely for giving an idea): http://www.varlock.com/images/moose01.jpg or http://www.varlock.com/images/moose02.jpg
I liked the first one, but can't there be something meaner? :) I guess it figures, but I really like the ravens logo (local football team). maybe something of that type would be cool (though I don't know how good a gfx artist one has to be to make something like that) http://baltimoreravens.com/images/homepage/home_right_my_ravens_account.gif http://www.teamhitchcover.com/ravens.gif (just direction, not to use this logo, we should be original) http://www.nfl.com/ (scroll down) has very good logos (obviously). I think could be a cool idea starting point. Something cool, but mean looking (and would look good on a tshirt). Is there a mean moose around? Maybe a mean falcon. angry hedgehog? Hedgehog doesn't sound like a bad idea... Just a thought. Victor
On November 20, 2004 11:37, Victor wrote:
http://www.nfl.com/ (scroll down) has very good logos (obviously). I think could be a cool idea starting point.
Something cool, but mean looking (and would look good on a tshirt). Is there a mean moose around? Maybe a mean falcon. angry hedgehog? Hedgehog doesn't sound like a bad idea...
Why the negative emotion? Should CRUX really be associated with meanness and anger? Doesn't using CRUX put you in a satisfied mood? The floating GNU is already taken, and we definitely shouldn't choose a mascot which represents the bovine qualities of its users. (*cough*Larry-the-Cow) Google image search for "intelligent animal" turns up a few hundred, but it was the raccoon which caught my eye. Raccoons can be foaming-at-the-mouth angry, given the right conditions--or can be peaceful scavengers with the decency to wash their food. They have teeth which grow for their entire lives, which could symbolize "keeping their skills sharp". Black "raccoon eyes" from staying up too late trying to get broken software to compile. :-) Scavenging nature, where they take things from their environment--downloading our sources from other people's mirrors--they don't mind, and if they did we'd go somewhere else. The only serious problem with the raccoon, is that most people see him as a pest. Many Linux users see the plethora of minor distro's as pests, so perhaps their is a parallel here too? Is it a positive or a negative one? Raccoons can be printed on a gray or black t-shirt with just two colours of ink. (if t-shirt is gray, use black & white ink. If t-shirt is black, use gray & white). This makes it cheaper to make t-shirts, mugs, etc. Lastly, the raccoon is similar in spirit to Puffy the Blowfish, because he can look both cute, or angry/mean. (though mean is the exception for reasons that should be biologically obvious...rabies. We don't want to bankrupt CISCO, replace windows, or take over the world, so probably shouldn't adopt a predator as a mascot. IMHO, intelligence and cuteness are essential for a mascot. On the other hand, the moose has the capability to look stoic. I could live with being identified with a stoic moose. Caribou exist as for food for others, so that's a definite no. The beaver logo is already used by Roots, and is liable to be interpreted as such within Canada. The moose is used by Moosehead, a good Lager from the maritime province of New Brunswick--though if we used a comic moose, that wouldn't be an issue. (and since it's a good beer, the logo is bearable) Canine domesticus was already claimed by YellowDog. A flying fish, perhaps? Maybe some kind of bird? Are raccoons considered seriously offensive in anyone's culture? I'm drawing most of my "visible animals" with a, perhaps, Canadian bias. Raccoons exist all over most of North-of-the-Mediterranean Europe though, right? Oops, I just checked--they don't. Introduced to Germany in 1934, they are now an urban plague. They're apparently going to conquer continental Europe. They're not a predator, but will conquer. Is this a desirable trait? "Viral GPL spreads across the continent, infecting European programmers everywhere. Remember kids, don't touch raccoons, they carry the Free Software virus". Perhaps this would make the raccoon a great conversation starter in continental Europe? Is that the purpose of a t-shirt logo? Here are some links to decent raccoon photos/caricatures: A skinny one: http://www.ozyandmillie.org/2002/om20020205.gif Angry: http://www.inwap.com/mf/reboot/episodes/games/raccoon.jpg Intelligent, alert, and standing on two legs! (photo): http://home.san.rr.com/wrichar3/images/Raccoon.jpg Other: http://www.northern.edu/natsource/MAMMALS/rac1.jpg http://www.wildlifecenter.net/images/Raccoon-Dsc01791.jpg http://thejunglestore.com/media/Raccoon-decal-pganimal-flod.jpg http://raynox.com/actualimage/digital/e5400/e5400-dcr1850-raccoon.jpg http://www.exzooberance.com/virtual zoo/they walk/raccoon/Raccoon 42009.jpg http://www.geocities.com/brainxxdamage/charactersbandit.jpg http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.angelfire.com/weird/curseofdagrak/Tobiasspell.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.angelfire.com/weird/curseofdagrak/commain.html&h=266&w=443&sz=15&tbnid=nWkbhyuLICYJ:&tbnh=74&tbnw=123&start=11&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dracoon%2Bcomic%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG http://www.havahart.com/nuisance/images/raccoondk.jpg http://pathea.com/media/wallpapers/ghibli/pompoko/index.shtml Honestly, I could probably live with the moose, so long has he has intelligent eyes, rather then deer or cow eyes. Biologically, humans are WAY closer to the raccoon. Actually, IIRC, outside of humans and orangutans, raccoons are the only living creature with an opposable thumb. Nope, I just checked wikipedia: Available are: Panda Koala Oppossum Cebids (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/200px-White-throated_Cap...) Moose is quite tasty, in case you haven't had the opportunity to try it. Definitely the tastiest game, imho. (better then deer, any fowl, elk...maybe not caribou. Haven't had the chance to try boar.) There's not a chance in the world that I'd touch anything with a hyper-combative mascot on it. Cheers, Nick
--- Nick Steeves <Nick.Steeves@shaw.ca> wrote:
Google image search for "intelligent animal" turns up a few hundred, but it was the raccoon which caught my eye.
Ooooh, I like this one! The other main quality of racoons that you didn't touch on is their thirst for mischeif. True, they can be a pest, but they're so cute in the process that it's extremely hard to ever want to do one harm. Very cool idea, I love it.. The moose is also a good idea. The racoon get's my vote because I read a lot of stories about wiley 'coons when I was a kid, and I think of a lot of us as mischeivous geek twirps ;) ===== Jay Dolan Software Engineer, Systems Analyst Windmill Cycles, Inc. 508.999.4000 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com
Hello, I vote for the raccoon. Zitat von Victor <victord@v600.net>:
I guess it figures, but I really like the ravens logo (local football team). maybe something of that type would be cool (though I don't know how good a gfx artist one has to be to make something like that)
A raven would also be nice but the raven is used by ravensoft (see http://www.ravensoft.com). Best regards, Tilo -- Tilo Riemer mailto:riemer@lincvs.org Dresden, Germany http://www.lincvs.org http://www.iapp.de/~riemer/projects
Tilo Riemer wrote:
Hello,
I vote for the raccoon.
Zitat von Victor <victord@v600.net>:
I guess it figures, but I really like the ravens logo (local football team). maybe something of that type would be cool (though I don't know how good a gfx artist one has to be to make something like that)
A raven would also be nice but the raven is used by ravensoft (see http://www.ravensoft.com).
I only offered that as example of logo design. I think those things looked like good "logo" images.
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, Simone Rota wrote:
Hi there,
Hey,
I know this isn't exactly a top priority, but what about having our own mascot?
Have you been living under a rock? ;) CRUX already has one: http://www.fukt.bth.se/~per/crux/penguin.gif /Per
On 21/11/2004 15:24 Per Liden wrote:
Hey, Hi Per
I know this isn't exactly a top priority, but what about having our own mascot?
Have you been living under a rock? ;) Yes, I share a big rock with a couple of friends :)
CRUX already has one: http://www.fukt.bth.se/~per/crux/penguin.gif Yeah, I know, I was thinking of 'our own' as in 'original', something that is not used by other people/projects. (as with Urs's penguin).
Regards, Simone -- Simone Rota WEB : http://www.varlock.com Bergamo, Italy MAIL: sip@varlock.com
What about something geometric and neutral like the Ubuntu logo? Crux linux would need a four piece one, with two main gaps coming together at the crux, or center of the logo. I have no idea what colours or shapes would be used though... On November 19, 2004 3:35, Simone Rota wrote:
Hi there,
I know this isn't exactly a top priority, but what about having our own mascot?
I was thinking of a moose* such as (merely for giving an idea): http://www.varlock.com/images/moose01.jpg or http://www.varlock.com/images/moose02.jpg
but in SVG format and painted with a style close to the gimp's wilber: http://www.varlock.com/images/wilber.png
I have a couple of friends that are very good artists and would be happy (I hope!) to contribute.
What do you think about the idea?
Regards, Simone
* I've heard they live in Sweden, even if I didn't see any in Stockholm Center :)
How about something simple. I don't know how to do all the nice fuzz and round graphic-artist things, but I like this logo. Easy on the eyes, somewhat recognizable, colour-scheme is subtly Swedish, the crux is offset, though visible. Honestly, now that I look at the thumbnail of it, the slightly-sloppy kindergartnerish look it kind of appealing. Nick PS: Three colours, very little ink, on a white background make for cheap t-shirt's, mugs, etc...and it's a logo one can easily wear to work or school.
Hello, Zitat von Nick Steeves <Nick.Steeves@shaw.ca>:
How about something simple...
Sorry but I think it's too simple. But I don't like the new NetBSD flag also. What about the racoon which we discussed last time? Best regards, Tilo -- Tilo Riemer mailto:riemer@lincvs.org Dresden, Germany http://www.lincvs.org http://www.iapp.de/~riemer/projects
On 10/12/2004 12:23 Tilo Riemer wrote:
Hello,
Hi all,
What about the racoon which we discussed last time?
Sorry for having been silent for a while, Per didn't seem too much enthusiast of a new mascot, so I didn't bother to ask my friend for a sketch. I'll ask him anyway next time we meet, if the logo is good maybe we can manage to have Per change its mind :-) Regarding the logo vs. mascot topic introduced by Nick, I personally like the simplicity of the graphic-less 'CRUX' font from the home page/boot cd, which I think serves as the current logo. Regards, Simone -- Simone Rota WEB : http://www.varlock.com Bergamo, Italy MAIL: sip@varlock.com
On December 10, 2004 5:12, Simone Rota wrote:
I personally like the simplicity of the graphic-less 'CRUX' font from the home page/boot cd, which I think serves as the current logo.
Ok. I thought the light-blue goggly-eyed penguin was the logo. I too like the text simplicity or 'CRUX'.
Per didn't seem too much enthusiast of a new mascot, so I didn't bother to ask my friend for a sketch.
Maybe the raccoon/moose can refer to CLC specifically, rather then everything CRUX? Either mascot, leaves Per the option of ranting about "the mammals" on a bad day. ;-) CRUX--The Solitary Penguin developer--Per. CLC--The pack of raccoons/herd of moose--maintainers. I don't think either raccoons or moose have communal social structures though... (afaik, raccoons are more likely to be found working in numbers, working independently, towards a common goal; usually food) Nick
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