hello all. first off i'd like to say hello and thank you for per for making crux. I'm a new reader of the list, but long user of crux and am excited to help the project. I read the email that Johannes has sent out and thought i might put my "newbie" view to the roadmap. 1. New Server - can i ask why? is clc.morpheus.net not sufficient? 2. Structure of the CRUX/CLC project - what is the structure now? is there a good communication between the hierarchy? 3. Webpage move/merge (new ports db); things currently missing - is there a dedicated wiki/webmaster that is supposed to take care of it? 5. CVS merge contrib -> opt; core group - does that mean to actually convert it into one directory? 6. New contrib collection - what can be considered something to add to the new contrib and how does that differ than opt? sorry if that seems kinda basic but i figure what a better place to ask. just my two cents. thanks again guys. -J On Apr 29, 2005, at 10:12 AM, Johannes Winkelmann wrote:

Hi,

I think it's time that we try to come up with a roadmap for the time ahead. There are numerous thing which have been prepared and should be finalized sometimes in the future. The most important ones that come to mind are:

1. New server 2. Structure of the CRUX/CLC project 3. Webpage move/merge (new ports db); things currently missing 4. Short revision control tool discussion (also WRT multiple archs) 5. CVS merge contrib -> opt; core group 6. New contrib collection

Less pressing, but also important: - mailing list concept - Introducing subprojects - recruit contributors for subprojects - webpage - ports - tools (self developed stuff) - docs - installer ? - Better responsibilities (kinda goes hand in hand with subprojects) - non-x86 arch handling

I added "better responsibilities" since there are certain things which should IMO be defined; e.g. I updated the httpup repos to 2.1, or created the CVS branch for 2.0; both just because I felt it should be done now, and no one else had done it so far (and in the case of httpup people started to wonder...). I don't mind doing those things (also in the future), but I think having a person explicitely in charge would give at least me a better feeling.

I'm not sure whether we should organize some IRC/Skype/whatever-meeting or discuss this in the mailing list, but I feel that we should just do it sometimes soon, since there are people actively working on some of these things and I feel bad myself about not providing them more help. So if you have a moment, please take the time to think about the above, and how/whether you'd like to discuss this. Comments appreciated, but not required :-).

Kind regards, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@tks6.net Bern, Switzerland http://jw.tks6.net _______________________________________________ clc-devel mailing list clc-devel@lists.berlios.de http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/clc-devel

On 04/29/05 17:12 Johannes Winkelmann wrote:

I think it's time that we try to come up with a roadmap for the time ahead.

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I'm not sure whether we should organize some IRC/Skype/whatever-meeting or discuss this in the mailing list, but I feel that we should just do it sometimes soon, since there are people actively working on some of these things and I feel bad myself about not providing them more help. So if you have a moment, please take the time to think about the above, and how/whether you'd like to discuss this. Comments appreciated, but not required :-).

I think a realtime meeting (IRC or something) is the best option: during the last weeks discussion on the ML has proved a bit slow; I'd opt for something more immediate at least for this occasion, since I believe some choice / plan has to be made ASAP to avoid confusion, unnecessary work, etc. Any suggestion for date, time and media is welcome. Regards, Simone. -- Simone Rota WEB : http://www.varlock.com Bergamo, Italy MAIL: sip@varlock.com