I've just upgraded the xorg-server and I find I can't start it via slim. Sometimes I get a blank screen, sometimes I just stay in the console. I can get X up by using startx. It starts on the same console and appears to work normally. The log from a failed attempt shows that the video and input drivers (intel and evdev) are loaded, and the keyboard and mouse recognised. Then I get repeated error messages like this: [ 13198.518] (EE) dbus-core: error connecting to system bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer (Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused) [ 13208.528] (EE) dbus-core: error connecting to system bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer (Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused) and right at the end: [ 13258.578] (EE) systemd-logind: failed to get session: The name org.freedesktop.login1 was not provided by any .service files Obviously xorg thinks it's running on a systemd system (that stuff creeps into everything nowadays!) It's true that the socket referred to doesn't exist - I checked for it under /var/run. But launching a dbus daemon before starting slim doesn't make any difference. And why is it needed anyway? -- H Russman