Hi :)

Firstly let me apologize for Walter. His tone was a little negative to say the least.
(I try to make an effort myself to maintain a peaceful and civilized community for us CRUXers)
(I think we all do!)

Secondly let me endorse the CRUX philosophy a bit for you!

CRUX above all else (for me) is about simplicty and ease of use.
(NB: THe original Latin meaning of the words).

That means:

CRUX ships with minimal dependencies with a small core.
CRUX uses the simpllest of tools wherever possible building upon other simpler tools.
CRUX uses the file system to store configuration and logs (well thankfully most software still does!)
CRUX doesn't hold your hand and neither comes with any graphical tools or installers (the best we have is 'setup' that we ship with the ISO that just does some package selection)
CRUX expects you the user to compile your own kernels and mostly maintain your own software stack (CRUX also provides tools to help manage this)

CRUX is more of an ideaology/philosophy than anything.

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

CRUX == pkgutils + rc + ports (optional) + prt-get (optional)

There isn't much more to it than this.

In any case others have said the right thing here in terms
of your original problem that you set out to solve :)
There are *icon* ports of various kinds lying about the place
which you should investigate and try to use if you want
to "pretty up your desktop" a bit :)

We hope you stick around! We CRUXers love new users and
we love our CRUX :)

cheers
James


James Mills / prologic

E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au
W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 7:46 PM, <jideel@free.fr> wrote:
Well, first, thanks to all the users' proposed solutions.
I'll have a look at the theme's repositories.
Now, just a bit of clarification :)

> You criticize the bloating and at the same time you want a fully
> featured desktop environment, and working out of the box.  All has a
> price my friend.

Didn't said such a thing about a fully featured desktop.
I was just looking for the icons :)

>For example, just reading your message I see you
>ignore how to use a text editor and the correct way to send an email.

You shouldn't be so sure of yourself. It may help you in your life.

> I use FVWM, that is not included in Crux, but it's not a problem for me
> since downloading it form FVWM site and compiling it take less than a
> minute.  Got the idea?

Don't worry for me, I was compiling kernels at a time when most people didn't even knew Internet existed (and maybe you weren't even born. Do you remember what an Alpha or a Sparc were ?), so yeah, i got the idea...

As i'm getting older, i'm probably getting lazier too :)
When you endorse a distribution, the right way is to try to capture and follow the philosophy behind it.
That's why i first tried CRUX ports and not the good old way (compile world myself).

I now you said you didn't wanted to be rude, but in fact, you were.
Your approach is not the right one to welcome a new user, especially when you don't know anything about him.
I'm used to this kind of behavior from more and more people in the *nix communities, especially the younger ones, so it doesn't matter for me, but imagine if i was a poor another_os user looking for some alternative...
Linux deserves better.

Regards,
Jideel

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