Actually we can and we do. Just look at crux.nu/portdb and the sheer no. of duplicates. Editing the port's Pkgfile is not a big burdne on users. You have to remember the types of users that want to and enjoy using CRUX are those that aren't afraid of a "little hard work". I don't think it's worthwhile patching the configure script in pidgin either because this adds even more maintenance. What happens when pidgin upstream changes their configure script? How do you keep the patch in sync? CRUX is about simplicity and ease of use. The two can sometimes be conflicting especially when you want to add more "ease of use" for the cost of added complexity for "little gain". cheers James James Mills / prologic E: prologic@shortcircuit.net.au W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Bartłomiej Palmowski <rotwang@crux.org.pl>wrote:
Removing --disable-aspell explicitly adds a dependency to the aspell and friends, that means everyone using contrib/pidgin would have to install aspell. I guess we could patch configure to silently determine if dictionary support should be included or not. But this kind of decisions should be made by the user imho.
@James we can't expect every user to maintain their own port versions (and effectively CRUX flavours), that's why we need sane defaults, and sane defaults doesn't mean "bare minimum".
2014-02-09 21:10 GMT+01:00 James Mills <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au>:
I'll say again.
prt-get edit pidgin ... remove --disable-aspell prt-get depinst aspell prt-get update -fr pidgin
This is not hard guys. CRUX is not meant to "hand hold" you through every step of the process :) If you wanted a distro that does that there's Ubuntu, Arch, etc, etc :)
IHMO Ports have always been (unwritten rule?) the bare minimum for the functionality the software represents.
cheers James
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On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Danny Rawlins <d.rawlins@datafast.net.au
wrote:
On 09/02/14 23:00, Bartłomiej Palmowski wrote:
pidgin port has --disable-aspell so it wont work without modifying this port
2014-02-09 12:06 GMT+01:00 James Mills <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au>:
Can't you just install aspell/ispell and rebuild pidgin like I've done so many times?
No need to haul in another dependency :)
cheers James
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On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Bartłomiej Palmowski < rotwang@crux.org.pl> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to know if any contrib/pidgin users would like to have aspell support. It would add aspell and friends to the list of dependencies.
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I've manually removed that --disable-aspell line and recompiled. it be nice if the code was patched to be enabled if found or disabled if aspell was not found.
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