"No, systemd will not take over Linux, it's just a crazy conspiracy
theory" is what I keep getting told by these so-called "Linux guru's" on
YouTube...

Between when I was told this lie for the first time and last time:
* Cron is now being managed via systemd, because apparently regular Cron
sucks?
* Shutting down and rebooting the system is now done via systemd,
because something's apparently wrong with "shutdown -h now"?
* NTP is managed with systemd now
* Network is managed with systemd now
* Gnome is managed with systemd now

What's next?
systemctl changedirectory /usr/bin?
systemctl listfiles /home/user?
systemctl createdirectory foldername?
It's beyond ridiculous!

I can easily see GNU Coreutils being replaced by systemd-utild, and
the Linux Kernel by systemd-linuxd.
And let's replace GCC with systemd-compiled, because why not?

On 2023年07月29日 10:37, David L. Craig wrote:
> Devuan's DNG (Debian Not Gnome) list has a subthread going about
> systemd 254 changes related to deprecating sysv script support.
> I wanted to be sure CRUXers are aware of this.
> The complete thread (currently through July 28) is at
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/thread/20230728.071036.81291f54.en.html
>
> ----- Forwarded message from tito via Dng <dng@lists.dyne.org> -----
>
> From: tito via Dng <dng@lists.dyne.org>
> List-Id: "The first mailinglist after debianfork.org" <dng.lists.dyne.org>
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2023 08:13:22 +0200
> Subject: Re: [DNG] New goodies from systemd
>
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 14:30:36 +1000
> onefang <onefang_devuan@sledjhamr.org> wrote:
>
> > On 2023-07-29 08:18:54, Alif Radhitya Wardana wrote:
> > >    Based on this changelog, what will happen in the future to SysV? I mean,
> > >    if systemd forces people to create native systemd units, will people drop
> > >    sysv scripts on their apps?
> > >
> > >    On July 29, 2023 3:20:17 AM GMT+07:00, tito via Dng <dng@lists.dyne.org>
> > >    wrote:
> > >
> > >  Hi,
> > >  A new, official systemd release (254) has just been tagged:
> > >
> > >   * Support for System V service scripts is now deprecated and will be
> > >     removed in a future release. Please make sure to update your software
> > >     *now* to include a native systemd unit file instead of a legacy
> > >     System V script to retain compatibility with future systemd releases.
> > >
> > >  A wonderful excuse to remove the last init scripts from packages.
> >
> > Do I have to resurrect my ancient LSB compliant SysV init code that could
> > figure out dependencies, run things in parallel, and even work with init
> > "scripts" written in ANY language?  It was written as a busybox module,
> > and could even cope with multiple other init "scripts" as modules in the
> > same busybox binary.  LSB compliance means it reads the headers, which in
> > typical init scripts are shell comments in the first few lines of the
> > script.
> >
> > I could teach it how to grok shitsemDie units.
> >
>
> Hi,
> yes using the info contained in .service units would be
> a elegant solution, but they ship a lot of them (and timers,
> targets, etc) so I suspect that picking the right ones
> is not simple without hardcoding the names (not so elegant),
> also the command lines used are different as the ones
> in SysV init scripts (daemonizing, logging).
> I would like to see your busybox module as I love busybox
> code. I recall that something like what you propose maybe
> was attempted (as a GSOC?).
>
> Ciao,
> Tito
>
>
>
>   
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