Hi,
From the handbook FAQ:
3. Is it called CRUX Linux or CRUX GNU/Linux? None of the above. It's called CRUX, no more no less. I've noticed that kdelibs is branded --with-distribution="CRUX Linux", the default menu.lst from grub calls it "CRUX GNU/Linux" and the descriptions for pkg-get and pkgsync both say "CRUX Linux". Could the respective maintainers please fix this, perhaps only locally and let it slip in with their next commit?
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:56:50 +0200, Mark Rosenstand wrote: Hello, Mark! IMO, the distro can be called CRUX, but anyway it is still GNU/Linux On gnu.org (I don't remember where), Stallman stresses that the kernel is not Linux but GNU/Linux, that undelines the nature of kernel. That is why Debian is a Debian GNU/Linux and not Debian Linux. Anyway it's a hard matter to operate :) Basically for me, I agree with Stallman and call distro either CRUX or CRUX GNU/Linux where acceptable. CRUX fits to me best i think.
Hi,
From the handbook FAQ:
3. Is it called CRUX Linux or CRUX GNU/Linux? None of the above. It's called CRUX, no more no less.
I've noticed that kdelibs is branded --with-distribution="CRUX Linux", the default menu.lst from grub calls it "CRUX GNU/Linux" and the descriptions for pkg-get and pkgsync both say "CRUX Linux".
Could the respective maintainers please fix this, perhaps only locally and let it slip in with their next commit?
-- Regards, [GRIM-UANIC] [GRIM-RIPE] Oleksiy V. Khilkevich National Technical University of Ukraine "Kyiv Polytechnic Institute" -- Please avoid sending me Word, Excel or PowerPoint attachments. Use plain text, HTML or PDF instead. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
*Oleksiy V. Khilkevich: | On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:56:50 +0200, Mark Rosenstand wrote: | IMO, the distro can be called CRUX, but anyway it is still GNU/Linux Yes, it is called CRUX. | On gnu.org (I don't remember where), Stallman stresses that the kernel is | not Linux but GNU/Linux, that undelines the nature of kernel. I thought the kernel was Linux, and everything else GNU? That's why Stallman insists on calling combinations of GNU tools with Linux kernels GNU/Linux. I could also argue that some distros should rather be called X/Linux or KDE/Linux by the same argument. | Anyway it's a hard matter to operate :) | Basically for me, I agree with Stallman and call distro either CRUX or | CRUX GNU/Linux where acceptable. CRUX was named CRUX, not Crux GNU/Linux, by it's creator. You can argue as long as you want if you want to call it a GNU/Linux distro or a Linux distro, but please take that row elsewhere. -- Robert Bauck Hamar Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:56:50 +0200, Mark Rosenstand wrote:
Hello, Mark!
IMO, the distro can be called CRUX, but anyway it is still GNU/Linux [...] Basically for me, I agree with Stallman and call distro either CRUX or CRUX GNU/Linux where acceptable. We had that discussion here before, and after it everyone still had the same opinion, so please let's not repeat it again (or if you must,
Hi, On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 11:52:23 +0200, Oleksiy V. Khilkevich wrote: please do it elsewhere). Howver, here's a historical note for those interested: If you go back to this discussion you'll see that some prominent current and former developers of CRUX disagree with calling it GNU/Linux, 'GNU/Linux distribution' or even 'CRUX GNU/Linux' (me included). Rather, they prefer 'CRUX', and 'CRUX' is a 'linux distribution', since it reflects our perception of free software as used in the CRUX project better. However, everyone I talked to very much respects the freedom of speech and freedom and thought of others, and we in no way mean to force any opinion on you. If you prefer calling it GNU/Linux, please feel free to continue doing so; I hope those who disagree with our choice value our freedoms just as much. Best regards, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@tks6.net Zurich, Switzerland http://jw.tks6.net
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 19:48:07 +0100, Johannes Winkelmann wrote: [...]
If you go back to this discussion you'll see that some prominent current and former developers of CRUX disagree with calling it GNU/Linux, 'GNU/Linux distribution' or even 'CRUX GNU/Linux' (me included).
Please excuse my arrogance: The should read "and I agree with them", not "me included". Thanks, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@tks6.net Zurich, Switzerland http://jw.tks6.net
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