Hitoshi, forwarded as per your request. Now I'm going to comment on it :) If Crux adoption was bigger I may agree that segregating the forum could be a good idea. Thus letting the developers develop and letting the users use. But... the Crux user base is not that big. I don't believe the Crux mailing list is not solely for crux developments. Unless I am mistaken I think anything Crux happens here. Crux is a fairly small community (comparatively). By having a segregated forum you will not have all/as many knowledgeable users to look at your issue. I for 1 will prob not sign up (being the most unknowledgeable one here, prob not a loss). I prefer to have the request for help to come to me, not to have to go looking for them. You also get duplication of content. Also I believe other non official crux forums (and projects) have sprouted up and died. Unless it is official (or has a really dedicated admin) be aware that any knowledge gathered will probably disappear if the forum dies. I'm done spewing.. -----Original Message----- From: Hitoshi Satow [mailto:satowh@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:43 PM To: Magnuson, Sig Subject: RE: mailinglist vs web forum I'm a noob to linux. I chose CRUX because of it's simplistic yet elegant nature. I've learned a lot. I think having a place for users to post quick CRUX usage related questions would be sweet nuggets and would help new users learn faster. Reserve the mailing list for CRUX development. Create a forum for CRUX/Linux usage. -Toshi

From: <smagnuson@forzani.com> To: <crux@lists.crux.nu> Subject: RE: mailinglist vs web forum Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:18:43 -0600

Ahh yes the ago old debate. Personally I would like to see both intergrated.

I like the mailinglist because it comes to me, with a web forum you have to go to it. I do believe a web forum would open up crux to more users (user friendly), modern looking, etc.... It also provides a searchable archive (I know crux has one already).

Perhaps something like the following is an option. The best of both worlds one could say.... It also addresses another concern of a fragmented user community. I have never used it.

http://www.mail2forum.com/

I'm sure other options exist Sig

-----Original Message----- From: crux-bounces@lists.crux.nu [mailto:crux-bounces@lists.crux.nu] On Behalf Of Tobias Richter Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:24 AM To: crux@lists.crux.nu Subject: RE: mailinglist vs web forum

Hi guys,

I'm quit new to the crux community but i really like it - it's one of the best distribution i used so far (the ports system is really great and crux linux is so kiss).

But there are is one point where crux can not keep up with other distributions and that is the help for "crux newbies" (i don't meen linux newbies for this species maybe a other disti. is better...). There is quit a good documentation but the only way where a user can ask questitions are irc or the mailinglist. I like irc and mailinglists, but forums are quit normal for every distribution and they have disadvantage but they also advantages specialy for new users. And forums are mostly better adoptive then mailinglists - so nearly every distri. have a forum only crux linux have none. Hence i have simply put a forum under the domain crux-forum.com. please review and maybe someone can put a link at crux.nu to the forum ?

I respect Johannes thoughts about a forum and we will follow them: 1. for this to work, motivated CRUX _users_ must take the responsibility to provide help/support there 2. the mailing list is authoritive and the place for "official" discussion.

So the Subject of this Email isn't right it should be "official mailinglist and web forum"

And I need help (mods etc.) - pleace email me if you want to help !

Please don't slap me - it is only a experiment. When nobody is interested in the forum i close it...

Tell me your thoughts !

Best Regards, Tobias 'tri' Richter

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