Which kernel will be in 3.5?
Hello. Well so i have a new computer which warps me forward a decade and which should be capable to compile even clang and anything else too, because of an unbelievable 8 GB main memory. It works just fine with kernel 4.19.30 (i run AlpineLinux for hmm because of binary updpates, maybe since my former somewhat beefy machine died at the end of 2015, and just "cloned over" btrfs). I do not worry too much (or even at all) about syscall / C library compatibility, but having seen C library tries to access /proc or /sys entries which do not yet / no longer exist (i think this was on Debian) i wonder what for example USB and udev and maybe hwparm etc. say when placed on a "false" kernel. So i went to kernel.org yesterday and saw that 4.14 is EOL in January 2020 i think, whereas 4.19 will be at the end of 2020. Thus my question: if i spend time now to get myself going with a 4.19 kernel (strip it down etc.), will i land nicely together with CRUX 3.5, or do you continue with 4.14, or even step to 5? You know, i had a best-fit kernel years ago, but this damn thing develops so fast, and i am not really looking towards their progress, as it really is overwhelming... and am not subscribed to any "secondary consumers" where you hear the one thing or the other either. Do you have some advice here? Thanks in advance. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in <20190328152700.CDIZr%steffen@sdaoden.eu>: ... |So i went to kernel.org yesterday and saw that 4.14 is EOL in |January 2020 i think, whereas 4.19 will be at the end of 2020. |Thus my question: if i spend time now to get myself going with |a 4.19 kernel (strip it down etc.), will i land nicely together |with CRUX 3.5, or do you continue with 4.14, or even step to 5? |You know, i had a best-fit kernel years ago, but this damn thing |develops so fast, and i am not really looking towards their |progress, as it really is overwhelming... and am not subscribed to |any "secondary consumers" where you hear the one thing or the |other either. | |Do you have some advice here? Thanks in advance. So i am scrolling through the IRC logs on shortcircuit.net.au and see that a 3.5 test ISO has landed just these days! Cool!! Unfortunately there is no URL, and the reference to 3rd of March when there seems to have been a first test ISO does not mention one either. Could someone please post an URL to that ISO, please? P.S.: 3.5 on the way, what a nice coincidence!! I was thinking about using the crux.ninja updated ISO, but being able to go 3.5 directly is even better! Ciao. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
Greetings, Steffen, Generally the kernel that goes with a release is the latest LTS version available at the time. So it's very likely that will be a 4.19.x version. As for 3.5, you can find a test ISO at https://crux.ninja/tmp/ if you want to try it but we usually hold off announcing new ISOs until there is a release candidate (rc) available. Regards, Matt
Why would it matter what kernel version it ships with? You can use whatever version kernel you want from ketnel.org. On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 8:00 PM Matt Housh <jaeger@crux.ninja> wrote:
Greetings, Steffen,
Generally the kernel that goes with a release is the latest LTS version available at the time. So it's very likely that will be a 4.19.x version.
As for 3.5, you can find a test ISO at https://crux.ninja/tmp/ if you want to try it but we usually hold off announcing new ISOs until there is a release candidate (rc) available.
Regards, Matt
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Hello Matt! Matt Housh wrote in <797698dc-0223-33ff-3e39-9fa21aa372f5@crux.ninja>: |Greetings, Steffen, | |Generally the kernel that goes with a release is the latest LTS version |available at the time. So it's very likely that will be a 4.19.x version. Ok, thanks, so i will spend my time with that one. |As for 3.5, you can find a test ISO at https://crux.ninja/tmp/ if you Ah, tmp -- i had not looked there. I hope it is still there on Monday! |want to try it but we usually hold off announcing new ISOs until there |is a release candidate (rc) available. Well, i will have a look. Actually there was an announcement, it is just me not bein on IRC ^_^ Thank you! --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in <20190330010808.cEtZQ%steffen@sdaoden.eu>: |Matt Housh wrote in <797698dc-0223-33ff-3e39-9fa21aa372f5@crux.ninja>: ||Generally the kernel that goes with a release is the latest LTS version ||available at the time. So it's very likely that will be a 4.19.x version. .. ||As for 3.5, you can find a test ISO at https://crux.ninja/tmp/ if you It has 4.19.25 included! I was looking at the ISO repository, which is why i have asked. This is great. ||want to try it but we usually hold off announcing new ISOs until there ||is a release candidate (rc) available. | |Well, i will have a look. Actually there was an announcement, it |is just me not bein on IRC ^_^ libpam is missing which is why login booms. Well let's see whether i find a workaround. Thanks for CRUX, you all! And a nice rest Weekend, everyone. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in <20190330224300.9uDIN%steffen@sdaoden.eu>: |Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in <20190330010808.cEtZQ%steffen@sdaoden.eu>: ||Matt Housh wrote in <797698dc-0223-33ff-3e39-9fa21aa372f5@crux.ninja>: |||Generally the kernel that goes with a release is the latest LTS version |||available at the time. So it's very likely that will be a 4.19.x version. | .. |||As for 3.5, you can find a test ISO at https://crux.ninja/tmp/ if you | |It has 4.19.25 included! I was looking at the ISO repository, |which is why i have asked. This is great. ... |libpam is missing which is why login booms. Well let's see |whether i find a workaround. Booting with 3.4 ISO and then --bind mounting the new ISO stuff over it, wonderful. May i suggest something. I see suggested efibootxy and grub2-efi. There is also elilo and syslinux. But for EFI, may i suggest adding refind to opt, so that it is available upon install time? I used the predecessor refit and now refind on EFI based systems, and it does it all, and the installation is really simple (just copy the files over to EFI), and if you use the shell install script it will even do fine on a Microsoft system (where replacement of a special non-EFI-standard file is required, but i also did that manually, and it just works fine). The nice thing is that it automatically finds installations of several OSs after reboot, but you can also add manual configuration entries. It then hands over to whatever is used on the chosen entry, i use syslinux/extlinux / FreeBSD etc. there. I.e., you install it once, and then EFI is out of the game. (Except you mount it and edit a configuration text file.) Ciao, --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)
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