From monster.romster at gmail.com  Thu May  1 07:46:28 2008
From: monster.romster at gmail.com (Danny Rawlins)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 17:46:28 +1000
Subject: [crux-contrib] Poll contrib/boost to be split up
In-Reply-To: <481878FF.5020802@users.sourceforge.net>
References: <48170E6B.1000504@gmail.com>
	<481878FF.5020802@users.sourceforge.net>
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Jose V Beneyto wrote:
> Danny Rawlins wrote:
>   
>> Poll should contrib/boost be split up so as to reduce compile time? 
>> Since a new version has just came out I think now is a good time to vote 
>> and or sugestions.
>>   
>>     
> Hello,
>
> Sounds great for me if it reduces the compile time.
>   
The compile time will be less if you don't need all the library's of course.
> I'm not disagree with the split unless you can't maintain
> those ports (thing that never passed yet with you)
>
>   
Thats a joke right :-)  it wont be any harder for me to maintain and 
personally I would install the lot but I'm thinking about others that 
don't need every boost library.
> Also, I only have 'aqsis' dependent on 'boost', which I'll try
> to adjust it when having some time.
>
>   
boost-<library name> like boost-iostreams or boost-regex, so if your 
port of 'aqsis' required boost-regex, you would save yourself 
considerable time to do a "prt-get depinst aqsis".

I have done a "prt-get dependent --all boost" and there is not many 
ports that depend on it, which is why i asked on the mailing list, in 
case others not in contrib rely on boost and would like to see it split 
up, personally I'm disappointed at the lack of feedback which goes to 
show no one seems to care what happens. So if no one disagrees I'll 
split it up.
> Thanks for your great job.
>
> Best regards,
>
>     Jose V Beneyto (aka. sepen)
>   



From monster.romster at gmail.com  Thu May  1 07:55:15 2008
From: monster.romster at gmail.com (Danny Rawlins)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 17:55:15 +1000
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report, contrib maintainer application
In-Reply-To: <4818e134af385@wp.pl>
References: <4818e134af385@wp.pl>
Message-ID: <48197763.8050503@gmail.com>

Bartlomiej Palmowski wrote:
>     First of all I'd like to thank all of you who gave me positive feedback 
> (especially Romster who pointed many things to improve). I made some 
> improvements and clean up to my ports which were messy (due to my messy 
> nature probably, they are still far from perfect tho), following tilmans 
> advice ill point out few ports that i think would be suitable for 
> contrib collection (I'd test them earlier in clean environment):
>
> asciidoc, awesome (libconfuse not in core/opt/contrib/xorg), fbgrab, 
> nao(fox not in core/opt/contrib/xorg), ncdu, phun, teewars (I've decided 
> to go with binary package + simple wrapper script, if there is problem 
> with it let me know), tornado, they would be good for the beggining i 
> think.
>
>   
I wouldn't go with binary packages it's  against the CRUX philosophy 
only ports like 'openoffice' would be madness as a source port, and with 
the exemption of  some ports that could be very hard to compile 
requiring extra  ports of very large source files just to compile type.
> Any constructive criticism well accepted. Special thanks goes to 
> Romster, pitillo, sepen, mike_k, tilman.
> ps. Im going off town for few days, so i wont be able to irc or receive 
> mail until monday (05-05-08).
>
> Bartek Palmowski <Rotwang>
>
>   
Regards,
Danny Rawlins
<Romster>



From maks1k at wp.pl  Thu May  1 08:04:38 2008
From: maks1k at wp.pl (Bartlomiej Palmowski)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 10:04:38 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report, contrib maintainer application
Message-ID: <481979966a1b7@wp.pl>

    First of all I'd like to thank all of you who gave me positive feedback 
(especially Romster who pointed many things to improve). I made some 
improvements and clean up to my ports which were messy (due to my messy 
nature probably, they are still far from perfect tho), following tilmans 
advice ill point out few ports that i think would be suitable for 
contrib collection (I'd test them earlier in clean environment):

asciidoc, awesome (libconfuse not in core/opt/contrib/xorg), fbgrab, 
nao(fox not in core/opt/contrib/xorg), ncdu, phun, teewars (I've decided 
to go with binary package + simple wrapper script, if there is problem 
with it let me know), tornado, they would be good for the beggining i 
think.

Any constructive criticism well accepted. Special thanks goes to 
Romster, pitillo, sepen, mike_k, tilman.

ps. Im going off town for few days, so i wont be able to irc or receive 
mail until monday (05-05-08).
ps2. im sending this mail 2nd time because 1st time it didnt make it :[

Bartek Palmowski <Rotwang>

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From jw at smts.ch  Thu May  1 11:43:11 2008
From: jw at smts.ch (Johannes Winkelmann)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:43:11 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] Poll contrib/boost to be split up
In-Reply-To: <48197554.6030203@gmail.com>
References: <48170E6B.1000504@gmail.com>
	<481878FF.5020802@users.sourceforge.net>
	<48197554.6030203@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080501114311.GA16176@titanium.smts.lan>

Hi,

On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 17:46:28 +1000, Danny Rawlins wrote:
> Jose V Beneyto wrote:
> > Danny Rawlins wrote:
[...]
> > I'm not disagree with the split unless you can't maintain
> > those ports (thing that never passed yet with you)
> >
> >   
> Thats a joke right :-)  it wont be any harder for me to maintain
Don't underestimate the effort. Splitting up the package will mean that
people may end up with missmatched versions. Also, while it might be
different in boost's case, other packages were rather hard to split
cleanly, i.e.  the "core" package would be simple but the only way to
extract "addons" would be to build all, and then just to install the
extra stuff which effectively meant a longer overall compile time for
those that needed the whole package.

As I said, it may work fine for boost, but Jose's concern is certainly
valid in general, as the maintenance effort is outweights the gain.


> and 
> personally I would install the lot but I'm thinking about others that 
> don't need every boost library.
Does that mean that other's have complained about the compile time? I
remember thinking it took long when all I wanted was to play wesnoth,
but didn't really mind.


> I have done a "prt-get dependent --all boost" and there is not many 
> ports that depend on it, which is why i asked on the mailing list, in 
> case others not in contrib rely on boost [...]
I fear very few non contrib maintainers follow this list, so if you want
to get feedback from them this should probably go to crux@; not that
that's a guarantee for more feedback...


> and would like to see it split 
> up, personally I'm disappointed at the lack of feedback which goes to 
> show no one seems to care what happens. So if no one disagrees I'll 
> split it up.
Now that's a conclusion I can't really understand... shouldn't you keep
it the way it is if no one wants split packages? Especially since there
are only few packages that would benefit from it according to dependent
--all?

Regards, Johannes
-- 
Johannes Winkelmann              mailto:jw at smts.ch
Zurich, Switzerland              http://jw.smts.ch


From jw at smts.ch  Thu May  1 12:03:53 2008
From: jw at smts.ch (Johannes Winkelmann)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:03:53 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] Poll contrib/boost to be split up
In-Reply-To: <20080501114311.GA16176@titanium.smts.lan>
References: <48170E6B.1000504@gmail.com>
	<481878FF.5020802@users.sourceforge.net>
	<48197554.6030203@gmail.com>
	<20080501114311.GA16176@titanium.smts.lan>
Message-ID: <20080501120353.GC16176@titanium.smts.lan>

Hi again,

I just saw you already committed it, so this is just for the sake of
completeness, if someone later wants to read up on splitting.

On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 13:43:11 +0200, Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 17:46:28 +1000, Danny Rawlins wrote:
> > Jose V Beneyto wrote:
> > > Danny Rawlins wrote:
> [...]
> > > I'm not disagree with the split unless you can't maintain
> > > those ports (thing that never passed yet with you)
> > >
> > >   
> > Thats a joke right :-)  it wont be any harder for me to maintain
> Don't underestimate the effort. Splitting up the package will mean that
> people may end up with missmatched versions.
I forgot to mention that in most cases, splitting a package is an
incompatible change which will break programs depending on the "extra"
libraries. IOW a 'sysup' will break the system, and revdep will be
needed.

For core and opt, there's a way to notify the mailing list for such
changes. I'm not sure if this is in place for the contrib repo as well,
but it might be worth setting it up if it's not.

Regards, Johannes
-- 
Johannes Winkelmann              mailto:jw at smts.ch
Zurich, Switzerland              http://jw.smts.ch


From monster.romster at gmail.com  Thu May  1 19:21:50 2008
From: monster.romster at gmail.com (Danny Rawlins)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 05:21:50 +1000
Subject: [crux-contrib] Poll contrib/boost to be split up
In-Reply-To: <20080501120353.GC16176@titanium.smts.lan>
References: <48170E6B.1000504@gmail.com>	<481878FF.5020802@users.sourceforge.net>	<48197554.6030203@gmail.com>	<20080501114311.GA16176@titanium.smts.lan>
	<20080501120353.GC16176@titanium.smts.lan>
Message-ID: <481A184E.7040305@gmail.com>

Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I just saw you already committed it, so this is just for the sake of
> completeness, if someone later wants to read up on splitting.
>
>   
I assume you saw 'boost-regex', I thought the 'boost' port didn't have 
it included by reading the docs it says a number of library's need to be 
compiled separately. What i didn't realize is the 'bjam' build system 
does this for me.
> On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 13:43:11 +0200, Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 17:46:28 +1000, Danny Rawlins wrote:
>>     
>>> Jose V Beneyto wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Danny Rawlins wrote:
>>>>         
>> [...]
>>     
>>>> I'm not disagree with the split unless you can't maintain
>>>> those ports (thing that never passed yet with you)
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>         
>>> Thats a joke right :-)  it wont be any harder for me to maintain
>>>       
>> Don't underestimate the effort. Splitting up the package will mean that
>> people may end up with missmatched versions.
>>     
Thats up to the user to check with 'prt-get diff' and see for them selfs.
> I forgot to mention that in most cases, splitting a package is an
> incompatible change which will break programs depending on the "extra"
> libraries. IOW a 'sysup' will break the system, and revdep will be
> needed.
>
>   
Spliting boost up isn't that tricky I have already figured that out or I 
wouldn't be thinking of doing that. And if it was the case of having to 
compile it all then rip out the select few files for each port that's 
pointless in my opinion, and I wouldn't split it up. Sure ccache would 
help there but still I wouldn't do something silly as that unless the 
goal was spitted up binary ports, but that's not what CRUX needs.
> For core and opt, there's a way to notify the mailing list for such
> changes. I'm not sure if this is in place for the contrib repo as well,
> but it might be worth setting it up if it's not.
>
>   
I always thought the crux-contrib was just the place to anounce 
important contrib port changes and stuff, and the general list was for 
normal CRUX chatter.
> Regards, Johannes
>   
Regards,
Danny Rawlins
<Romster>


From jw at smts.ch  Fri May  2 07:25:38 2008
From: jw at smts.ch (Johannes Winkelmann)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 09:25:38 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] Poll contrib/boost to be split up
In-Reply-To: <481A184E.7040305@gmail.com>
References: <48170E6B.1000504@gmail.com>
	<481878FF.5020802@users.sourceforge.net>
	<48197554.6030203@gmail.com>
	<20080501114311.GA16176@titanium.smts.lan>
	<20080501120353.GC16176@titanium.smts.lan>
	<481A184E.7040305@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080502072538.GA6366@titanium.smts.lan>

Hi,

On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 05:21:50 +1000, Danny Rawlins wrote:
> Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
[...]
> > For core and opt, there's a way to notify the mailing list for such
> > changes. I'm not sure if this is in place for the contrib repo as well,
> > but it might be worth setting it up if it's not.
> >
> >   
> I always thought the crux-contrib was just the place to anounce 
> important contrib port changes and stuff, and the general list was for 
> normal CRUX chatter.
crux-contrib is only mentioned in the Main/ContribRules wiki page, but
not on Main/MailingLists, therefore it's safe to assume that no users
subscribe to this list unless they're considering to join crux-contrib.

In general (and I think this is the right approach) users subscribing to
crux@ should get all the information they need (i.e. notifications of
changes that affect them), and they should only have subscribe to
-contrib (or -devel) if they have a special interest in this area or
want to join discussions of course.

Regards, Johannes
-- 
Johannes Winkelmann              mailto:jw at smts.ch
Zurich, Switzerland              http://jw.smts.ch


From sepen at users.sourceforge.net  Mon May  5 19:41:49 2008
From: sepen at users.sourceforge.net (Jose V Beneyto)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 21:41:49 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report, contrib maintainer application
In-Reply-To: <481979966a1b7@wp.pl>
References: <481979966a1b7@wp.pl>
Message-ID: <481F62FD.7050106@users.sourceforge.net>

Bartlomiej Palmowski wrote:
> asciidoc, awesome (libconfuse not in core/opt/contrib/xorg), fbgrab, 
> nao(fox not in core/opt/contrib/xorg), ncdu, phun, teewars (I've decided 
> to go with binary package + simple wrapper script, if there is problem 
> with it let me know), tornado, they would be good for the beggining i 
> think.
>
>   
Hello,

take care with the owners for files, in particular your 'awesome' port:

drwxr-xr-x      maxiq/users     usr/
drwxr-xr-x      maxiq/users     usr/bin/
-rwxr-xr-x      maxiq/users     usr/bin/awesome
-rwxr-xr-x      maxiq/users     usr/bin/awesome-client
-rwxr-xr-x      maxiq/users     usr/bin/awesome-message
...

I suggest you to use 'fakeroot pkgmk' for building ports, please read
http://crux.nu/Main/Handbook2-4#ntoc47
http://crux.nu/Main/FakerootPorts

I also found two different Maintainer lines in your Pkgfile's:
- Bartlomiej Palmowski (Rotwang), maks1k at wp dot pl
- Rotwang, maks1k at wp dot pl
I prefer this one: Bartlomiej Palmowski, maks1k at wp dot pl

Best regards,

    Jose V Beneyto (aka. sepen)


From maks1k at wp.pl  Tue May  6 18:31:13 2008
From: maks1k at wp.pl (Rotwang)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 20:31:13 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1210068003.11768.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
References: <mailman.5.1210068003.11768.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
Message-ID: <4820A3F1.1040404@wp.pl>



> Hello,
>   
Hi

> take care with the owners for files, in particular your 'awesome' port:
>
> drwxr-xr-x      maxiq/users     usr/
> drwxr-xr-x      maxiq/users     usr/bin/
> -rwxr-xr-x      maxiq/users     usr/bin/awesome
> -rwxr-xr-x      maxiq/users     usr/bin/awesome-client
> -rwxr-xr-x      maxiq/users     usr/bin/awesome-message
> ...
>   
Fixed, also new awesome version available

> I also found two different Maintainer lines in your Pkgfile's:
> - Bartlomiej Palmowski (Rotwang), maks1k at wp dot pl
> - Rotwang, maks1k at wp dot pl
> I prefer this one: Bartlomiej Palmowski, maks1k at wp dot pl
>
>   
also fixed, in all Pkgfiles

* I also added libconfuse(awesome) and fox(nao) ports to my repo,
* teeworlds are compiled from source
* made installer patch for asciidoc (instead of bunch of seds)

regards
Bartek Palmowski


From pitillo at ono.com  Wed May  7 08:39:49 2008
From: pitillo at ono.com (pitillo)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 10:39:49 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <4820A3F1.1040404@wp.pl>
References: <mailman.5.1210068003.11768.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
	<4820A3F1.1040404@wp.pl>
Message-ID: <20080507103949.28e09f70.pitillo@ono.com>

Hello,
I am checking again your ports (now with all needed ports in your repo and with the correct updates). Here is my little report (build) about the list you reported in your last message here at ML:

- asciidoc: OK
- libconfuse: OK
- awesome: Missing dependencie xorg-xrandr
- fox: OK (May be putting the original packager can be better than keep the last maintainer (me in this case))
- nao: Can't be built here, may be it needs a little review.
- ncdu: OK
- phun: OK
- teeworlds (you named it teewars in your first post): OK
- tornado: OK

If you have more ports that you want in contrib, answer this mail telling me about of them and I'll try to test and send more reports.

I hope this can be usefull for you and other contrib members.

Regards, pitillo.

Learning bit by bit. -pitillo-


From maks1k at wp.pl  Wed May  7 17:26:46 2008
From: maks1k at wp.pl (Rotwang)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 19:26:46 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1210154402.30769.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
References: <mailman.3.1210154402.30769.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
Message-ID: <4821E656.9080906@wp.pl>


> Hello,
>   
Hi

> I am checking again your ports (now with all needed ports in your repo and with the correct updates). Here is my little report (build) about the list you reported in your last message here at ML:
>
> - asciidoc: OK
> - libconfuse: OK
> - awesome: Missing dependencie xorg-xrandr
>   
* xorg-libxrandr added to deps

> - fox: OK (May be putting the original packager can be better than keep the last maintainer (me in this case))
>   
* not sure about it, why keep the first maintainer not last?

> - nao: Can't be built here, may be it needs a little review.
>   
* my fault i didnt check that since last build, its broken and i cant 
fix it (svn version broken too) i removed nao temporarily from my repo 
and I remove it as contrib entry candidate.

> - ncdu: OK
> - phun: OK
> - teeworlds (you named it teewars in your first post): OK
>   
* teewars due to some legal problems was renamed to teeworlds (since 4.0)

> - tornado: OK
>   

Here are some more candidates ;] :
4dtris (pkgmk doesnt extract *.tar (*.tbz2 as well)), bashburn (i dont 
use it often so its not well tested), cream, interbench, libconfuse 
(awesome dep)

Thanks to pitillo for testing o>

regards
Bartek Palmowski


From sepen at users.sourceforge.net  Wed May  7 17:42:58 2008
From: sepen at users.sourceforge.net (Jose V Beneyto)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 19:42:58 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <4821E656.9080906@wp.pl>
References: <mailman.3.1210154402.30769.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
	<4821E656.9080906@wp.pl>
Message-ID: <4821EA22.9070000@users.sourceforge.net>

Hello,

Rotwang wrote:
>
> Here are some more candidates ;] :
> 4dtris (pkgmk doesnt extract *.tar (*.tbz2 as well)),
you can do extract them manually inside the build() function
>  bashburn (i dont use it often so its not well tested), cream, interbench, libconfuse 
>   
jaeger has another libconfuse port, please try to avoid duplicates


Best regards,

    Jose V Beneyto
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From sepen at users.sourceforge.net  Wed May  7 18:26:26 2008
From: sepen at users.sourceforge.net (Jose V Beneyto)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 20:26:26 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <4821EA22.9070000@users.sourceforge.net>
References: <mailman.3.1210154402.30769.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>	<4821E656.9080906@wp.pl>
	<4821EA22.9070000@users.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <4821F452.2030901@users.sourceforge.net>

Jose V Beneyto wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Rotwang wrote:
>>
>> Here are some more candidates ;] :
>> 4dtris (pkgmk doesnt extract *.tar (*.tbz2 as well)),
> you can extract them manually inside the build() function
i.e:
$ grep '.tar$' /usr/ports/opt/*/Pkgfile
/usr/ports/opt/lsof/Pkgfile:    tar -xf lsof_${version}_src.tar
>>  bashburn (i dont use it often so its not well tested), cream, interbench, libconfuse 
>>   
> jaeger has another libconfuse port, please try to avoid duplicates
Sorry, I'm wrong, it seems that you are interested on maintaining his 
port on contrib
nice!

Also I made a new prtverify report of your ports
http://mikeux.dyndns.org/crux/logs/repoverify.php?log=repoverify-mxq.html

All ports sounds fine, only redundant deps which aren't a big deal (imho)


Regards,

    Jose V Beneyto


From pitillo at ono.com  Wed May  7 19:26:22 2008
From: pitillo at ono.com (pitillo)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:26:22 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <4821E656.9080906@wp.pl>
References: <mailman.3.1210154402.30769.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
	<4821E656.9080906@wp.pl>
Message-ID: <20080507212622.4ea57ee8.pitillo@ono.com>

On Wed, 07 May 2008 19:26:46 +0200
Rotwang <maks1k at wp.pl> wrote:

> 
> > Hello,
> >   
> Hi
Hello,

> 
> > I am checking again your ports (now with all needed ports in your repo and with the correct updates). Here is my little report (build) about the list you reported in your last message here at ML:
> >
> > - asciidoc: OK
> > - libconfuse: OK
> > - awesome: Missing dependencie xorg-xrandr
> >   
> * xorg-libxrandr added to deps
nice

> 
> > - fox: OK (May be putting the original packager can be better than keep the last maintainer (me in this case))
> >   
> * not sure about it, why keep the first maintainer not last?
> 
> > - nao: Can't be built here, may be it needs a little review.
> >   
> * my fault i didnt check that since last build, its broken and i cant 
> fix it (svn version broken too) i removed nao temporarily from my repo 
> and I remove it as contrib entry candidate.
IMHO better wait until you have a good version built.

> > - ncdu: OK
> > - phun: OK
> > - teeworlds (you named it teewars in your first post): OK
> >   
> * teewars due to some legal problems was renamed to teeworlds (since 4.0)
I didn't know about that. I saw both names and I thought they were bad typed.

> 
> > - tornado: OK
> >   
> 
> Here are some more candidates ;] :
> 4dtris (pkgmk doesnt extract *.tar (*.tbz2 as well)), bashburn (i dont 
> use it often so its not well tested), cream, interbench, libconfuse 
> (awesome dep)
- 4dtris: OK
- bashburn: IMHO if you want it in contrib, must be well built and tested.
- cream: OK
- interbench: OK

> 
> Thanks to pitillo for testing o>
No problem.

> 
> regards
> Bartek Palmowski
Regards.
Learning bit by bit. -pitillo-


From maks1k at wp.pl  Thu May  8 14:32:20 2008
From: maks1k at wp.pl (Rotwang)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 16:32:20 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1210240803.22538.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
References: <mailman.7.1210240803.22538.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
Message-ID: <48230EF4.70908@wp.pl>

Jose V Beneyto (Sepen) wrote:


> you can do extract them manually inside the build() function
>   
* I know ;], I think it's not case to be discussed at the contribML but 
pkgmk's support for *.tar *.tbz2 and *.rar would be nice.

> Also I made a new prtverify report of your ports
> http://mikeux.dyndns.org/crux/logs/repoverify.php?log=repoverify-mxq.html
>
>   
* Big thanks

> Regards,
>
>     Jose V Beneyto
>   

pitillo wrote:
> - bashburn: IMHO if you want it in contrib, must be well built and tested.
* I agree, but personally doubt that every port in contrib is throughly 
tested by its maintainer, (which doesnt mean this port is bad), bashburn 
is well built (bashburnrc should be probably placed in /usr/etc instead 
of /etc), i'll test bashburn port and decide about it later.

> Regards.
> Learning bit by bit. -pitillo-
>
>   
Best Regards
Awaiting second contrib maintainer approval/disapproval
Bartlomiej Palmowski



From sepen at users.sourceforge.net  Thu May  8 16:02:00 2008
From: sepen at users.sourceforge.net (Jose V Beneyto)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 18:02:00 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <48230EF4.70908@wp.pl>
References: <mailman.7.1210240803.22538.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
	<48230EF4.70908@wp.pl>
Message-ID: <482323F8.20803@users.sourceforge.net>

Rotwang wrote:
>> you can do extract them manually inside the build() function
>>   
>>     
> * I know ;], I think it's not case to be discussed at the contribML but 
> pkgmk's support for *.tar *.tbz2 and *.rar would be nice.
>
>   
sure, something like these patch:

--- pkgmk.orig  2008-05-08 17:34:26.000000000 +0200
+++ pkgmk     2008-05-08 17:57:13.000000000 +0200
@@ -159,8 +159,10 @@ unpack_source() {
    case $LOCAL_FILENAME in
      *.tar.gz|*.tar.Z|*.tgz)
       COMMAND="tar -C $SRC --use-compress-program=gzip -xf 
$LOCAL_FILENAME" ;;
-     *.tar.bz2)
+     *.tar.bz2|*.tbz2)
       COMMAND="tar -C $SRC --use-compress-program=bzip2 -xf 
$LOCAL_FILENAME" ;;
+     *.tar)
+      COMMAND="tar -C $SRC -xf $LOCAL_FILENAME" ;;
      *.zip)
       COMMAND="unzip -qq -o -d $SRC $LOCAL_FILENAME" ;;
      *)

in addition, rar is not in core


Best regards,

    Jose V Beneyto


From mike at openbunker.org  Thu May  8 22:10:31 2008
From: mike at openbunker.org (Mikhail Kolesnik)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 01:10:31 +0300
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <48230EF4.70908@wp.pl>
References: <mailman.7.1210240803.22538.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
	<48230EF4.70908@wp.pl>
Message-ID: <20080509011031.37564a78@amilo.home>

Hello.

On Thu, 08 May 2008 16:32:20 +0200
Rotwang <maks1k at wp.pl> wrote:
> [...]
> Awaiting second contrib maintainer approval/disapproval

Most issues are fixed by now... I will be glad to see a new
new contrib member. Thumbs up!

-- 
Mikhail Kolesnik
ICQ: 260259143
IRC: mike_k at freenode/#crux, rusnet/#yalta


From maks1k at wp.pl  Fri May  9 15:41:29 2008
From: maks1k at wp.pl (Rotwang)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 17:41:29 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1210327202.14908.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
References: <mailman.7.1210327202.14908.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
Message-ID: <482470A9.2040206@wp.pl>

Jose V Beneyto wrote:

> in addition, rar is not in core
>   
Well maybe it should :P,  pkgmk handling rar files would be very handy

Mikhail Kolesnik wrote:


> Most issues are fixed by now... I will be glad to see a new
> new contrib member. Thumbs up
Thank you very much, if there are no more major issues, ill be glad to 
become contrib maintainer :D


From sepen at users.sourceforge.net  Sat May 10 09:25:50 2008
From: sepen at users.sourceforge.net (Jose V Beneyto)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:25:50 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <482470A9.2040206@wp.pl>
References: <mailman.7.1210327202.14908.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
	<482470A9.2040206@wp.pl>
Message-ID: <48256A1E.3080501@users.sourceforge.net>

Rotwang wrote:
> Jose V Beneyto wrote:
>
>   
>> in addition, rar is not in core
>>   
> Well maybe it should :P,  pkgmk handling rar files would be very handy
I think is not a good thing due to the rar license:

   The RAR Archiver
   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   License for use and distribution
   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      The RAR archiver is distributed as try before you buy. This means:

   1. All copyrights to RAR are exclusively owned by the author
      - Alexander Roshal.

   2. Anyone may use this software during a test period of 40
      days. Following this test period of 40 days or less,
      if you wish to continue to use RAR, you must purchase a licence.
  
   [...]


Regards,

    Jose V Beneyto




From monster.romster at gmail.com  Sat May 10 12:37:46 2008
From: monster.romster at gmail.com (Danny Rawlins)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 22:37:46 +1000
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <48256A1E.3080501@users.sourceforge.net>
References: <mailman.7.1210327202.14908.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>	<482470A9.2040206@wp.pl>
	<48256A1E.3080501@users.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <4825971A.50202@gmail.com>

Jose V Beneyto wrote:
> Rotwang wrote:
>   
>> Jose V Beneyto wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> in addition, rar is not in core
>>>   
>>>       
>> Well maybe it should :P,  pkgmk handling rar files would be very handy
>>     
> I think is not a good thing due to the rar license:
>
>    The RAR Archiver
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>    License for use and distribution
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>       The RAR archiver is distributed as try before you buy. This means:
>
>    1. All copyrights to RAR are exclusively owned by the author
>       - Alexander Roshal.
>
>    2. Anyone may use this software during a test period of 40
>       days. Following this test period of 40 days or less,
>       if you wish to continue to use RAR, you must purchase a licence.
>   
>    [...]
>
>
> Regards,
>
>     Jose V Beneyto
>
>   
unrar says freeware but I still agree it's a bad idea. We could do 
without rar in pkgutils.

Regards,
Danny Rawlins
<Romster>



From aon at iki.fi  Sat May 10 13:08:13 2008
From: aon at iki.fi (Antti =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nyk=E4nen?=)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 16:08:13 +0300
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <4825971A.50202@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.7.1210327202.14908.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
	<482470A9.2040206@wp.pl> <48256A1E.3080501@users.sourceforge.net>
	<4825971A.50202@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080510130813.GA3749@poplar.aon.iki.fi>

Hi

On 2008-05-10 at 22:37, Danny Rawlins wrote:
> unrar says freeware but I still agree it's a bad idea. We could do 
> without rar in pkgutils.

Yeah, and how many apps that are worth making a port of really use it as
their form of distribution?

Just depend on it and use it in the build() to extract the source file
if it's really necessary somewhere. That's how plain tar and everything
else obscure is handled.


From wszystkie.fajne.loginy.zajete at gmail.com  Sun May 11 14:55:20 2008
From: wszystkie.fajne.loginy.zajete at gmail.com (Bartek Palmowski)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 16:55:20 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1210500001.26501.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
References: <mailman.5.1210500001.26501.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
Message-ID: <482708D8.9020108@gmail.com>

Antti Nyk?nen wrote:

>
> Just depend on it and use it in the build() to extract the source file
> if it's really necessary somewhere. That's how plain tar and everything
> else obscure is handled.
>
>   
I agree, major number of archives are supported by pkgmk, so patching 
pkgmk is not necessary
in that case.

After some fight with nao sources, nao is back in my repository and as 
contrib candidate, (thanks to nao developer 'compbatant' for hint) if 
anyone would like to test it. I think crashtest and stormbaancoureur (my 
two new ports) are very nice progs so they could get into contrib.

Best regards
Bartek Palmowski


From wszystkie.fajne.loginy.zajete at gmail.com  Mon May 12 20:47:10 2008
From: wszystkie.fajne.loginy.zajete at gmail.com (Bartek Palmowski)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:47:10 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] progress report
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1210586402.14861.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
References: <mailman.3.1210586402.14861.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
Message-ID: <4828ACCE.6020905@gmail.com>

    I'd like to thank everyone involved in my contrib recrutation 
process: Danny Rawlins (Romster), Victor Martinez (pitillo) , Jose V 
Beneyto (sepen), Mikhail Kolesnik (mike_k),  Tilman Sauerbeck (tilman), 
sorry if i didn't mention someone i should. I'm very happy I can be part 
of contrib.
    I did first commit already and hope my ports will be valuable for 
contrib collection, howewer there is still  much to learn and improve 
:). We may assume this topic as closed.

Best regards
Bartek Palmowski


From pitillo at ono.com  Wed May 14 08:57:50 2008
From: pitillo at ono.com (pitillo)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:57:50 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] New contrib member.
Message-ID: <20080514105750.cdd59e2e.pitillo@ono.com>

Hello,

I want to be a contrib member and start maintaining some ports which are maintained atm by sepen. These ports are:
- jnettop
- leafpad
- codeblocks
- fcheck
- dmidecode
By now I think this can be enought to start understanding git and make some tests changing maintainer lines from sepen to me.

Best regards, pitillo.


From monster.romster at gmail.com  Wed May 14 09:02:08 2008
From: monster.romster at gmail.com (Danny Rawlins)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:02:08 +1000
Subject: [crux-contrib] New contrib member.
In-Reply-To: <20080514105750.cdd59e2e.pitillo@ono.com>
References: <20080514105750.cdd59e2e.pitillo@ono.com>
Message-ID: <482AAA90.4080006@gmail.com>

pitillo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I want to be a contrib member and start maintaining some ports which are maintained atm by sepen. These ports are:
> - jnettop
> - leafpad
> - codeblocks
> - fcheck
> - dmidecode
> By now I think this can be enought to start understanding git and make some tests changing maintainer lines from sepen to me.
>
> Best regards, pitillo.
>   
+1 by me. I have already looked over your private repo and am happy with 
how you check and maintain.

Regards,
Danny Rawlins
<Romster>



From pitillo at ono.com  Wed May 14 09:10:16 2008
From: pitillo at ono.com (pitillo)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:10:16 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] New contrib member.
In-Reply-To: <482AAA90.4080006@gmail.com>
References: <20080514105750.cdd59e2e.pitillo@ono.com>
	<482AAA90.4080006@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080514111016.d61cb781.pitillo@ono.com>

On Wed, 14 May 2008 19:02:08 +1000
Danny Rawlins <monster.romster at gmail.com> wrote:

> pitillo wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I want to be a contrib member and start maintaining some ports which are maintained atm by sepen. These ports are:
> > - jnettop
> > - leafpad
> > - codeblocks
> > - fcheck
> > - dmidecode
> > By now I think this can be enought to start understanding git and make some tests changing maintainer lines from sepen to me.
> >
> > Best regards, pitillo.
> >   
> +1 by me. I have already looked over your private repo and am happy with 
> how you check and maintain.
Thank you Danny.

> 
> Regards,
> Danny Rawlins
> <Romster>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> crux-contrib mailing list
> crux-contrib at lists.crux.nu
> http://lists.crux.nu/mailman/listinfo/crux-contrib


From sepen at users.sourceforge.net  Wed May 14 09:52:08 2008
From: sepen at users.sourceforge.net (Jose V Beneyto)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:52:08 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] New contrib member.
In-Reply-To: <20080514105750.cdd59e2e.pitillo@ono.com>
References: <20080514105750.cdd59e2e.pitillo@ono.com>
Message-ID: <482AB648.8040709@users.sourceforge.net>

pitillo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I want to be a contrib member and start maintaining some ports which are maintained atm by sepen. These ports are:
> - jnettop
> - leafpad
> - codeblocks
> - fcheck
> - dmidecode
>   
yeah, and surely you can contribute with more ports from your private 
repo, you have some ports really clean, and
you are in the way to do a nice work imho
> By now I think this can be enought to start understanding git and make some tests changing maintainer lines from sepen to me.
>   
don't worry, as you known tilman starts a new contrib-test.git repository
> Best regards, pitillo.
> _______________________________________________
> crux-contrib mailing list
> crux-contrib at lists.crux.nu
> http://lists.crux.nu/mailman/listinfo/crux-contrib
>
>   
Of course, I'm glad that you become part of contrib
+1 for pitillo :)

Thanks and regards,

    Jose V Beneyto


From pitillo at ono.com  Wed May 14 09:59:36 2008
From: pitillo at ono.com (pitillo)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:59:36 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] New contrib member.
In-Reply-To: <482AB648.8040709@users.sourceforge.net>
References: <20080514105750.cdd59e2e.pitillo@ono.com>
	<482AB648.8040709@users.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <20080514115936.b2c18e87.pitillo@ono.com>

On Wed, 14 May 2008 11:52:08 +0200
Jose V Beneyto <sepen at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> pitillo wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I want to be a contrib member and start maintaining some ports which are maintained atm by sepen. These ports are:
> > - jnettop
> > - leafpad
> > - codeblocks
> > - fcheck
> > - dmidecode
> >   
> yeah, and surely you can contribute with more ports from your private 
> repo, you have some ports really clean, and
> you are in the way to do a nice work imho
> > By now I think this can be enought to start understanding git and make some tests changing maintainer lines from sepen to me.
> >   
> don't worry, as you known tilman starts a new contrib-test.git repository
> > Best regards, pitillo.
> > _______________________________________________
> > crux-contrib mailing list
> > crux-contrib at lists.crux.nu
> > http://lists.crux.nu/mailman/listinfo/crux-contrib
> >
> >   
> Of course, I'm glad that you become part of contrib
> +1 for pitillo :)
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
>     Jose V Beneyto
> _______________________________________________
> crux-contrib mailing list
> crux-contrib at lists.crux.nu
> http://lists.crux.nu/mailman/listinfo/crux-contrib

Thank you for your vote too sepen. And nothing to say about your help.
Regards, pitillo.



From pitillo at ono.com  Wed May 14 10:37:38 2008
From: pitillo at ono.com (Victor Martinez)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:37:38 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] New contrib member.
In-Reply-To: <20080514105750.cdd59e2e.pitillo@ono.com>
References: <20080514105750.cdd59e2e.pitillo@ono.com>
Message-ID: <20080514123738.fbe5feaa.pitillo@ono.com>

On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:57:50 +0200
pitillo <pitillo at ono.com> wrote:

Thank you both for your fast replies. 
I hope this message can be used like a test to see my from address to fill tilman's request.

Regards, pitillo.

-- 
Learning bit by bit. -pitillo-


From jw at smts.ch  Fri May 16 08:55:03 2008
From: jw at smts.ch (Johannes Winkelmann)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:55:03 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] Suggestion: administrative contact in the contrib
	team
Message-ID: <20080516085503.GA5540@titanium.smts.lan>

Hi there,

In the lights of the recent new maintainers and the account creation
process, Tilman and I discussed that we'd like to see one or more
administrative contacts chosen from the current team, covering the
following:
- informs the devel team about new (accepted) contrib maintainers and
  thus trigger account creation
- can be a contact for the devel team to communicate with contrib
  without having to subscribe to crux-contrib
- same the other way around, can bring up stuff on crux-devel related to
  contrib without requiring all contrib guys to subscribe there
- sends announcements to crux@ when there are changes in contrib

The last point also contains to send announcement when new guys join,
since it's nice for the new guy to see he's welcome, and it shows the
users that the contrib project is active and growing.

Note that this is a mere suggestion, please only adapt it if you guys
(as a group) like it.

Thanks for considering it,
Johannes
-- 
Johannes Winkelmann              mailto:jw at smts.ch
Zurich, Switzerland              http://jw.smts.ch


From pitillo at ono.com  Fri May 16 09:29:15 2008
From: pitillo at ono.com (Victor Martinez)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 11:29:15 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] Suggestion: administrative contact in the
 contrib team
In-Reply-To: <20080516085503.GA5540@titanium.smts.lan>
References: <20080516085503.GA5540@titanium.smts.lan>
Message-ID: <20080516112915.35c6b4f6.pitillo@ono.com>

On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:55:03 +0200
Johannes Winkelmann <jw at smts.ch> wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
Hello Johannes,

> In the lights of the recent new maintainers and the account creation
> process, Tilman and I discussed that we'd like to see one or more
> administrative contacts chosen from the current team, covering the
> following:
IMHO this is a good idea to make a clear path between maintainers (doesn't matter wich repo core/opt/xorg/contrib)

> - informs the devel team about new (accepted) contrib maintainers and
>   thus trigger account creation
> - can be a contact for the devel team to communicate with contrib
>   without having to subscribe to crux-contrib
> - same the other way around, can bring up stuff on crux-devel related to
>   contrib without requiring all contrib guys to subscribe there
> - sends announcements to crux@ when there are changes in contrib
> 
I don't find a problem to be subscribed to the ML (devel for example without being a core member or viceversa for contrib ML), btw, this is my case.

> The last point also contains to send announcement when new guys join,
> since it's nice for the new guy to see he's welcome, and it shows the
> users that the contrib project is active and growing.
> 
> Note that this is a mere suggestion, please only adapt it if you guys
> (as a group) like it.
> 
> Thanks for considering it,
> Johannes
> -- 
> Johannes Winkelmann              mailto:jw at smts.ch
> Zurich, Switzerland              http://jw.smts.ch

If this can be took like a start point to talk about this, I think Danny and Jose can be good administrative contacts from my point of view. I think they must know about this and chose if they want to be or not (they are maintaining too many ports and I am not sure if these tasks can be more work for them).

I hope this can be usefull (recent contrib member opinion).

Regards, Victor.

-- 
Learning bit by bit. -pitillo-


From monster.romster at gmail.com  Fri May 16 10:44:07 2008
From: monster.romster at gmail.com (Danny Rawlins)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 20:44:07 +1000
Subject: [crux-contrib] Suggestion: administrative contact in the
 contrib team
In-Reply-To: <20080516112915.35c6b4f6.pitillo@ono.com>
References: <20080516085503.GA5540@titanium.smts.lan>
	<20080516112915.35c6b4f6.pitillo@ono.com>
Message-ID: <482D6577.5050208@gmail.com>

Victor Martinez wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:55:03 +0200
> Johannes Winkelmann <jw at smts.ch> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi there,
>>
>>     
> Hello Johannes,
>
>   
>> In the lights of the recent new maintainers and the account creation
>> process, Tilman and I discussed that we'd like to see one or more
>> administrative contacts chosen from the current team, covering the
>> following:
>>     
> IMHO this is a good idea to make a clear path between maintainers (doesn't matter wich repo core/opt/xorg/contrib)
>
>   
>> - informs the devel team about new (accepted) contrib maintainers and
>>   thus trigger account creation
>> - can be a contact for the devel team to communicate with contrib
>>   without having to subscribe to crux-contrib
>> - same the other way around, can bring up stuff on crux-devel related to
>>   contrib without requiring all contrib guys to subscribe there
>> - sends announcements to crux@ when there are changes in contrib
>>
>>     
> I don't find a problem to be subscribed to the ML (devel for example without being a core member or viceversa for contrib ML), btw, this is my case.
>
>   
I often look at the crux-core@ list to see what events are happening and 
sit in #crux-devel.
>> The last point also contains to send announcement when new guys join,
>> since it's nice for the new guy to see he's welcome, and it shows the
>> users that the contrib project is active and growing.
>>
>>     
I think everyone could greet new users to crux at . And when a specific 
port is affected I would also expect the maintainer to post on 
crux-contirb@ about the changes so it makes the job easier for the 
chosen people(s) to decide on what to write to crux at .
>> Note that this is a mere suggestion, please only adapt it if you guys
>> (as a group) like it.
>>
>> Thanks for considering it,
>> Johannes
>> -- 
>> Johannes Winkelmann              mailto:jw at smts.ch
>> Zurich, Switzerland              http://jw.smts.ch
>>     
>
> If this can be took like a start point to talk about this, I think Danny and Jose can be good administrative contacts from my point of view. I think they must know about this and chose if they want to be or not (they are maintaining too many ports and I am not sure if these tasks can be more work for them).
>
>   
Thanks Victor :) and I'm keen on taking on this position, port 
maintaining isn't too much effort and I learn from it all so I keep 
improving. I have methods to cut down on the work load (see public wiki).

I'll say +1 if i can vote for myself, else I can nominate others I would 
say sepen or predatorfreak would be suitable, I would also recommend 
trench for his excellent communication skills, if trench was in contrib too.
> I hope this can be usefull (recent contrib member opinion).
>
> Regards, Victor.
>
>   
Regards,
Danny Rawlins
<Romster>


From sepen at users.sourceforge.net  Fri May 16 10:56:21 2008
From: sepen at users.sourceforge.net (Jose V Beneyto)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 12:56:21 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] Suggestion: administrative contact in the
 contrib team
In-Reply-To: <20080516112915.35c6b4f6.pitillo@ono.com>
References: <20080516085503.GA5540@titanium.smts.lan>
	<20080516112915.35c6b4f6.pitillo@ono.com>
Message-ID: <482D6855.9010007@users.sourceforge.net>

Victor Martinez wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:55:03 +0200
> Johannes Winkelmann <jw at smts.ch> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi there,
>>
>>     
> Hello Johannes,
>
>   
Hey @ll,
>> In the lights of the recent new maintainers and the account creation
>> process, Tilman and I discussed that we'd like to see one or more
>> administrative contacts chosen from the current team, covering the
>> following:
>>     
> IMHO this is a good idea to make a clear path between maintainers (doesn't matter wich repo core/opt/xorg/contrib)
>
>   
16:47:45     <cptn> tilman: I was wondering whether there could be 
something like a "contrib secretary"

the idea sounds good for me, but I don't like the meaning of "contrib 
secretary"  :)  hahaaa
>> - informs the devel team about new (accepted) contrib maintainers and
>>   thus trigger account creation
>> - can be a contact for the devel team to communicate with contrib
>>   without having to subscribe to crux-contrib
>> - same the other way around, can bring up stuff on crux-devel related to
>>   contrib without requiring all contrib guys to subscribe there
>> - sends announcements to crux@ when there are changes in contrib
>>
>>     
> I don't find a problem to be subscribed to the ML (devel for example without being a core member or viceversa for contrib ML), btw, this is my case.
>   
is not a problem, just he explain that won't be a requirement for 
contributors, I'm also subscribed to crux-devel list, and I won't change 
my subscription
>> The last point also contains to send announcement when new guys join,
>> since it's nice for the new guy to see he's welcome, and it shows the
>> users that the contrib project is active and growing.
>>     
ML changes are ok imho, and about wiki access? I think also could be 
useful for maintaining some areas.
>> Note that this is a mere suggestion, please only adapt it if you guys
>> (as a group) like it.
>>
>>     
>   
+1 for the idea but we need a good candidate
> If this can be took like a start point to talk about this, I think Danny and Jose can be good administrative contacts from my point of view. I think they must know about this and chose if they want to be or not (they are maintaining too many ports and I am not sure if these tasks can be more work for them).
>
> I hope this can be usefull (recent contrib member opinion).
>   
I would be very glad, but I think that should be a native english speaker, with language domain, high comunication, etc. I'm not that person.

Best regards,

	Jose V Beneyto




From wszystkie.fajne.loginy.zajete at gmail.com  Fri May 16 11:07:35 2008
From: wszystkie.fajne.loginy.zajete at gmail.com (Bartek Palmowski)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:07:35 +0200
Subject: [crux-contrib] Suggestion: administrative contact in the,
 contrib team
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1210932002.30530.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
References: <mailman.7.1210932002.30530.crux-contrib@lists.crux.nu>
Message-ID: <482D6AF7.7000604@gmail.com>

Victor Martinez wrote:

 > I think Danny and Jose can be good administrative contacts from my 
point of view.

    Good idea, Romster (Danny Rawlins) and sepen (Jose V Beneyto) would 
be good "mediators", they are irc/community active.


From predatorfreak at dcaf-security.org  Fri May 16 19:32:48 2008
From: predatorfreak at dcaf-security.org (Brett Goulder)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 15:32:48 -0400
Subject: [crux-contrib] Suggestion: administrative contact in the
 contrib team
In-Reply-To: <482D6577.5050208@gmail.com>
References: <20080516085503.GA5540@titanium.smts.lan>
	<20080516112915.35c6b4f6.pitillo@ono.com>
	<482D6577.5050208@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080516153248.5efd6835@predatorbox>

On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:44:07 +1000
Danny Rawlins wrote:

> >> Note that this is a mere suggestion, please only adapt it if you
> >> guys (as a group) like it.
> >>
> >> Thanks for considering it,
> >> Johannes
> >> -- 
> >> Johannes Winkelmann              mailto:jw at smts.ch
> >> Zurich, Switzerland              http://jw.smts.ch
> >>     
> >
> > If this can be took like a start point to talk about this, I think
> > Danny and Jose can be good administrative contacts from my point of
> > view. I think they must know about this and chose if they want to
> > be or not (they are maintaining too many ports and I am not sure if
> > these tasks can be more work for them).
> >
> >   
> Thanks Victor :) and I'm keen on taking on this position, port 
> maintaining isn't too much effort and I learn from it all so I keep 
> improving. I have methods to cut down on the work load (see public
> wiki).
> 
> I'll say +1 if i can vote for myself, else I can nominate others I
> would say sepen or predatorfreak would be suitable, I would also
> recommend trench for his excellent communication skills, if trench
> was in contrib too.

I vote +1 for you and Jose, giant -1 for me (yes, I'm voting against
myself). I'm a decent maintainer, but honestly I'm happy just sitting
on the sidelines for the most part.

> > I hope this can be usefull (recent contrib member opinion).
> >
> > Regards, Victor.
> >
> >   
> Regards,
> Danny Rawlins
> <Romster>
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From lucas at die.net.au  Fri May 16 22:33:54 2008
From: lucas at die.net.au (Lucas Hazel)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 08:33:54 +1000
Subject: [crux-contrib] Suggestion: administrative contact in the
 contrib team
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References: <20080516085503.GA5540@titanium.smts.lan>
	<20080516112915.35c6b4f6.pitillo@ono.com>
	<482D6855.9010007@users.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <20080517083354.5a9d08f6@akira.digitilocal>

On Fri, 16 May 2008 12:56:21 +0200
Jose V Beneyto <sepen at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> I would be very glad, but I think that should be a native english
> speaker, with language domain, high comunication, etc. I'm not that
> person.

I'd volunteer, but I'm far too lazy, and rude.
-- 
Lucas Hazel <lucas at die.net.au>