From crux at crux.nu  Fri Dec  1 09:31:30 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:31:30 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <456ff672.a7QVHiC8hFMlDO5F%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


(no differences)


Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Fri Dec  1 09:41:56 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:41:56 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <456ff8e4.Nc9iH+vRRFIezILW%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/ppp
 Url: ftp://ftp.samba.org/pub/ppp/ppp-2.4.4.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 421
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/samba
 Url: http://us1.samba.org/samba/ftp/stable/samba-3.0.23d.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From predatorfreak at dcaf-security.org  Sat Dec  2 02:08:16 2006
From: predatorfreak at dcaf-security.org (Brett Goulder)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 21:08:16 -0500
Subject: [crux-devel] Proposal: Guidelines for CVS/SVN/etc Pkgfile's
Message-ID: <20061201210816.5ed8572b@predatorbox>

I'm just going to paste my proposal below, please comment on it.


Proposal: Handling CVS/SVN Pkgfile's in a standardised manner.
Written by: Brett 'predatorfreak' Goulder

1. What is this proposal about?
It's about laying down basic guidelines for writing Pkgfile's which
deal with CVS/SVN checkouts, in order to standardise this. The reason I
want to standardise this is because Pkgfile's that handle
CVS/SVN/whatever tend to use their own way of doing things, for example
Han's Pkgfile's checkout stuff live and others use snapshots.

2. Well, what should we change?
I think we should change the Pkgfile's so we checkout revisions and
change the version variable to the revision or date to checkout, as
this allows us to stop rolling a snapshot or using someone elses and
doesn't force us to use a live checkout, which presents a problem for
people to help with problems during the build or operation of the
package. We should also add a variable, svntrunk/cvsroot/etc that would
allow a script to grab the latest revision to aid in bumping.


Here's an example of how a CVS/SVN/etc Pkgfile would look:
# Description: Foobar
# URL: Foobar
# Maintainer: XYZ <XYZ at XYZ.XYS>
# Packager: XYZ <XYZ at XYZ.XYS>
# Depends on: foo

name=bar
version=4543
release=1
source=()
svntrunk="svn://svn.foobar.com/$name/trunk"

build() {
	cd $PKGMK_SOURCE_DIR
	svn co $svntrunk $name-svn --config-dir ./ -r $version
	cp -r $name-svn $SRC/$name-build

	cd $SRC/$name-build
	./autogen.sh
	./configure --prefix=/usr
	make
	make DESTDIR=$PKG install
}

We also checkout the source into the $PKGMK_SOURCE_DIR in order to
allow us to use it as a later point, that way the source can be used
between builds without downloading it again.

-- 
~predatorfreak
GnuPG Public key: http://pred.dcaf-security.org/dcafsec-pub-gpgkey.asc
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From cbou at mail.ru  Sat Dec  2 04:24:18 2006
From: cbou at mail.ru (Anton Vorontsov)
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 07:24:18 +0300
Subject: [crux-devel] Proposal: Guidelines for CVS/SVN/etc Pkgfile's
In-Reply-To: <20061201210816.5ed8572b@predatorbox>
References: <20061201210816.5ed8572b@predatorbox>
Message-ID: <20061202042418.GA27483@localhost>

On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 09:08:16PM -0500, Brett Goulder wrote:
> Here's an example of how a CVS/SVN/etc Pkgfile would look:
> # Description: Foobar
> # URL: Foobar
> # Maintainer: XYZ <XYZ at XYZ.XYS>
> # Packager: XYZ <XYZ at XYZ.XYS>
> # Depends on: foo
> 
> name=bar
> version=4543
> release=1
> source=()
> svntrunk="svn://svn.foobar.com/$name/trunk"

This can be done that way:

version=revision-or-tag
source=(git://.../project/@$version)
source=(svn://.../project/@$version)
source=(cvs://.../project/@$version)

And pkgmk would deal with it -> run svn/cvs/git for us.


From predatorfreak at dcaf-security.org  Sat Dec  2 04:35:05 2006
From: predatorfreak at dcaf-security.org (Brett Goulder)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 23:35:05 -0500
Subject: [crux-devel] Proposal: Guidelines for CVS/SVN/etc Pkgfile's
In-Reply-To: <20061202042418.GA27483@localhost>
References: <20061201210816.5ed8572b@predatorbox>
	<20061202042418.GA27483@localhost>
Message-ID: <20061201233505.67dd1670@predatorbox>

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 07:24:18 +0300
Anton Vorontsov wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 09:08:16PM -0500, Brett Goulder wrote:
> > Here's an example of how a CVS/SVN/etc Pkgfile would look:
> > # Description: Foobar
> > # URL: Foobar
> > # Maintainer: XYZ <XYZ at XYZ.XYS>
> > # Packager: XYZ <XYZ at XYZ.XYS>
> > # Depends on: foo
> > 
> > name=bar
> > version=4543
> > release=1
> > source=()
> > svntrunk="svn://svn.foobar.com/$name/trunk"
> 
> This can be done that way:
> 
> version=revision-or-tag
> source=(git://.../project/@$version)
> source=(svn://.../project/@$version)
> source=(cvs://.../project/@$version)
> 
> And pkgmk would deal with it -> run svn/cvs/git for us.

The problem is this requires hacking in pkgmk and breaks backwards
compatibility, old versions of pkgmk couldn't run such files.

Note: Sorry sending the first reply directly to you, Anton, I'm a
little tired.

-- 
~predatorfreak
GnuPG Public key: http://pred.dcaf-security.org/dcafsec-pub-gpgkey.asc
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From mark at borkware.net  Sat Dec  2 08:51:42 2006
From: mark at borkware.net (Mark Rosenstand)
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:51:42 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Proposal: Guidelines for CVS/SVN/etc Pkgfile's
In-Reply-To: <20061201210816.5ed8572b@predatorbox>
References: <20061201210816.5ed8572b@predatorbox>
Message-ID: <1165049502.3108.2.camel@mjollnir.borkware.net>

On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 21:08 -0500, Brett Goulder wrote:
> I'm just going to paste my proposal below, please comment on it.
> 
> 
> Proposal: Handling CVS/SVN Pkgfile's in a standardised manner.
> Written by: Brett 'predatorfreak' Goulder
> 
> 1. What is this proposal about?
> It's about laying down basic guidelines for writing Pkgfile's which
> deal with CVS/SVN checkouts, in order to standardise this. The reason I
> want to standardise this is because Pkgfile's that handle
> CVS/SVN/whatever tend to use their own way of doing things, for example
> Han's Pkgfile's checkout stuff live and others use snapshots.
> 
> 2. Well, what should we change?
> I think we should change the Pkgfile's so we checkout revisions and
> change the version variable to the revision or date to checkout, as
> this allows us to stop rolling a snapshot or using someone elses and
> doesn't force us to use a live checkout, which presents a problem for
> people to help with problems during the build or operation of the
> package. We should also add a variable, svntrunk/cvsroot/etc that would
> allow a script to grab the latest revision to aid in bumping.

See also:
http://lists.crux.nu/pipermail/crux-contrib/2006-November/000759.html :-)



From crux at crux.nu  Sat Dec  2 09:25:18 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 10:25:18 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <4571467e.rS58W7OHwjZQpcOn%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/dhcpcd
 Url: ftp://ftp.phystech.com/pub/dhcpcd-1.3.22-pl4.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'ftp.phystech.com'
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/ppp
 Url: ftp://ftp.samba.org/pub/ppp/ppp-2.4.4.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: Changed reason



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Sat Dec  2 09:31:29 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 10:31:29 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <457147f1.KaN3ImY5euqUbbH0%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


(no differences)


Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From simone at   Sat Dec  2 16:08:06 2006
From: simone at  (simone at )
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 17:08:06 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Proposal: Guidelines for CVS/SVN/etc Pkgfile's
In-Reply-To: <20061201210816.5ed8572b@predatorbox>
References: <20061201210816.5ed8572b@predatorbox>
Message-ID: <20061202160806.GA31513@sip>

On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 09:08:16PM -0500, Brett Goulder wrote:
> I'm just going to paste my proposal below, please comment on it.
> 
> 1. What is this proposal about?
> It's about laying down basic guidelines for writing Pkgfile's which
> deal with CVS/SVN checkouts, in order to standardise this. The reason I
> want to standardise this is because Pkgfile's that handle
> CVS/SVN/whatever tend to use their own way of doing things, for example
> Han's Pkgfile's checkout stuff live and others use snapshots.

I think live checkouts should be generally avoided. Better providing
a snapshot (when not available upstream) and update it from time
to time. 
This would make the ports more 'predictable', and this is especially
needed since we're already using a bleeding edge package :-)

IIRC the general opinion of the other CRUX devs was similar
(please comment), even if we haven't discussed official rules
about that.

Regards,
Simone



From cbou at mail.ru  Sat Dec  2 17:21:10 2006
From: cbou at mail.ru (Anton Vorontsov)
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 20:21:10 +0300
Subject: [crux-devel] Proposal: Guidelines for CVS/SVN/etc Pkgfile's
In-Reply-To: <20061202160806.GA31513@sip>
References: <20061201210816.5ed8572b@predatorbox> <20061202160806.GA31513@sip>
Message-ID: <20061202172110.GA5757@localhost>

On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 05:08:06PM +0100, simone@ wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 09:08:16PM -0500, Brett Goulder wrote:
> > I'm just going to paste my proposal below, please comment on it.
> > 
> > 1. What is this proposal about?
> > It's about laying down basic guidelines for writing Pkgfile's which
> > deal with CVS/SVN checkouts, in order to standardise this. The reason I
> > want to standardise this is because Pkgfile's that handle
> > CVS/SVN/whatever tend to use their own way of doing things, for example
> > Han's Pkgfile's checkout stuff live and others use snapshots.
> 
> I think live checkouts should be generally avoided. Better providing
> a snapshot (when not available upstream) and update it from time
> to time. 
> This would make the ports more 'predictable', and this is especially
> needed since we're already using a bleeding edge package :-)

fetching from repository by revision or tag should produce predictable
results, just the same as tarballs (as opposite to fetching from trunk
or branches).

> Regards,
> Simone

-- Anton (irc: bd2)


From simone at   Sat Dec  2 16:27:44 2006
From: simone at  (simone at )
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 17:27:44 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Proposal: Guidelines for CVS/SVN/etc Pkgfile's
In-Reply-To: <20061202172110.GA5757@localhost>
References: <20061201210816.5ed8572b@predatorbox> <20061202160806.GA31513@sip>
	<20061202172110.GA5757@localhost>
Message-ID: <20061202162743.GA2089@sip>

On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 08:21:10PM +0300, Anton Vorontsov wrote:
> 
> fetching from repository by revision or tag should produce predictable
> results, just the same as tarballs (as opposite to fetching from trunk
> or branches).

True, but some extra work for the packager (as in publishing
a snapshot) will discourage too much frequent updates ;-)


-- 
Simone Rota
Bergamo, Italy - http://www.varlock.com


From predatorfreak at dcaf-security.org  Sun Dec  3 00:08:46 2006
From: predatorfreak at dcaf-security.org (Brett Goulder)
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 19:08:46 -0500
Subject: [crux-devel] Proposal: Guidelines for CVS/SVN/etc Pkgfile's
In-Reply-To: <20061202162743.GA2089@sip>
References: <20061201210816.5ed8572b@predatorbox> <20061202160806.GA31513@sip>
	<20061202172110.GA5757@localhost> <20061202162743.GA2089@sip>
Message-ID: <20061202190846.2aed408b@predatorbox>

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 17:27:44 +0100
simone@ wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 08:21:10PM +0300, Anton Vorontsov wrote:
> > 
> > fetching from repository by revision or tag should produce
> > predictable results, just the same as tarballs (as opposite to
> > fetching from trunk or branches).
> 
> True, but some extra work for the packager (as in publishing
> a snapshot) will discourage too much frequent updates ;-)
> 
> 

Packages in core/opt could be bumped every X amount of time, like say
bump once every week. Contrib ones should be whenever the maintainer
pleases, say a new feature is added one day and the next another, he
should be able to bump and test as he wishes in contrib.

In my opinion, snapshots of cvs/svn are just a bad idea, some of the
time snapshots might not even work (I've used upstream snapshots that
have been busted before).

-- 
~predatorfreak
GnuPG Public key: http://pred.dcaf-security.org/dcafsec-pub-gpgkey.asc
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From crux at crux.nu  Sun Dec  3 09:31:31 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:31:31 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <45729973.wKqzEWKFC6wqPg2C%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


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From crux at crux.nu  Sun Dec  3 09:32:21 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:32:21 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <457299a5.MOSV3xaaVAQwdghd%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/qt3
 Url: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-x11-free-3.3.7.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/wvdial
 Url: http://open.nit.ca/download/wvdial-1.56.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/wvdial
 Url: http://open.nit.ca/download/wvstreams-4.2.2.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Mon Dec  4 09:31:33 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:31:33 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <4573eaf5.J8071fsGhKnn9VXx%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


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Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Mon Dec  4 09:42:18 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:42:18 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <4573ed7a.DIX/pegLd8gpZX0/%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/netkit-base
 Url: ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/Networking/netkit/netkit-base-0.17.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/netkit-ftp
 Url: ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/Networking/netkit/netkit-ftp-0.17.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/netkit-telnet
 Url: ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/Networking/netkit/netkit-telnet-0.17.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From sip at varlock.com  Mon Dec  4 15:20:09 2006
From: sip at varlock.com (Simone Rota)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:20:09 +0000
Subject: [crux-devel] Fixing maintainer/packager for core ports
Message-ID: <20061204152009.GA2265@crux23.local>

Hi,

I think the time has come to normalize maintainer/packager
information, expecially regarding core ports.

As you'll remember, for 2.2 we simply left Per as a maintainer
and replaced his email with core-ports at crux dot nu.

My proposal:

- Keep Per as the packager for inherited core ports,
  with his personal email.
- Use the "real" packager for newer ports (ie udev)
- Use "CRUX System Team, core-ports at crux dot nu" for
  the core ports maintainer field
- Use the specific maintainer for core ports that the
  System Team members are not much interested in due
  to personal preferences, if any (I'm thinking of 
  ports like xfsprogs)

Comments are welcome.

Regards,
Simone



From tilman at crux.nu  Mon Dec  4 17:15:33 2006
From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:15:33 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Fixing maintainer/packager for core ports
In-Reply-To: <20061204152009.GA2265@crux23.local>
References: <20061204152009.GA2265@crux23.local>
Message-ID: <20061204171531.GA1361@code-monkey.de>

Simone Rota [2006-12-04 15:20]:
> - Keep Per as the packager for inherited core ports,
>   with his personal email.

-1.

This will lead to people sending e-mail to Per about stuff that he
last touched years ago. Not good IMO.

> - Use the "real" packager for newer ports (ie udev)

+1.

> - Use "CRUX System Team, core-ports at crux dot nu" for
>   the core ports maintainer field
> - Use the specific maintainer for core ports that the
>   System Team members are not much interested in due
>   to personal preferences, if any (I'm thinking of 
>   ports like xfsprogs)

Okay, but what about e.g. core/bzip2? I adopted it some months ago; are
you suggesting to make it owned by "core system team" again?

Regards,
Tilman

-- 
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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From sip at varlock.com  Mon Dec  4 17:43:47 2006
From: sip at varlock.com (Simone Rota)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:43:47 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Fixing maintainer/packager for core ports
In-Reply-To: <20061204171531.GA1361@code-monkey.de>
References: <20061204152009.GA2265@crux23.local>
	<20061204171531.GA1361@code-monkey.de>
Message-ID: <20061204174329.GA1190@siptp.local>

On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 06:15:33PM +0100, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
> > - Keep Per as the packager for inherited core ports,
> >   with his personal email.
> 
> -1.
> 
> This will lead to people sending e-mail to Per about stuff that he
> last touched years ago. Not good IMO.

As you prefer, even I cannot see how this is different from
having packager != maintainer everywhere else. I mean, 
people are supposed to contact the maintainer anyway,
not the packager.

I'm also fine with core-ports in both fields as a second
option, yet it takes some credit away from Per as
the original packager.

> > - Use "CRUX System Team, core-ports at crux dot nu" for
> >   the core ports maintainer field
> > - Use the specific maintainer for core ports that the
> >   System Team members are not much interested in due
> >   to personal preferences, if any (I'm thinking of 
> >   ports like xfsprogs)
> 
> Okay, but what about e.g. core/bzip2? I adopted it some months ago; are
> you suggesting to make it owned by "core system team" again?

Yes; I thought one of the main tasks of the ST was to be in charge 
for the core ports, where some additional consistency is needed.
The exception above was to offer better support for ports which
cannot be reliably tested by the ST (ie if nobody uses xfs) or 
require some specific knowledge / actual usage (ie exim)

Regards,
Simone




From treachster at gmail.com  Mon Dec  4 20:06:56 2006
From: treachster at gmail.com (treach)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 21:06:56 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Fixing maintainer/packager for core ports
In-Reply-To: <20061204152009.GA2265@crux23.local>
References: <20061204152009.GA2265@crux23.local>
Message-ID: <20061204210656.8e5a3a11.treachster@gmail.com>

On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:20:09 +0000
Simone Rota <sip at varlock.com> wrote:
 
> My proposal:
> 
> - Keep Per as the packager for inherited core ports,
>   with his personal email.
> - Use the "real" packager for newer ports (ie udev)
> - Use "CRUX System Team, core-ports at crux dot nu" for
>   the core ports maintainer field
> - Use the specific maintainer for core ports that the
>   System Team members are not much interested in due
>   to personal preferences, if any (I'm thinking of 
>   ports like xfsprogs)

I have no say in this, but IMO it's pretty useless to keep the original packager around, since he/she/it should never be contacted anyway. An alternative is to keep the packager around if somone feels it's needed for crediting or some such, but without listing the mail-adress, to add an obstacle to mailing the wrong person.

Just my truely worthless 0.02?
// treach


From crux at crux.nu  Tue Dec  5 09:31:31 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 10:31:31 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <45753c73.oMGX7XCwe5mCNM+g%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


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From crux at crux.nu  Tue Dec  5 09:56:38 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 10:56:38 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <45754256.yrrO9cl9smUDNimV%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/alsa-driver
 Url: ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.13.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/gnupg
 Url: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/gnupg/gnupg-2.0.1.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libassuan
 Url: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/libassuan/libassuan-1.0.1.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/mutt
 Url: http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/mutt/devel/mutt-1.5.13.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/mysql
 Url: http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/mysql/Downloads/MySQL-5.0/mysql-5.0.27.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/smpeg
 Url: ftp://sunsite.dk/pub/os/linux/loki/open-source/smpeg/smpeg-0.4.4.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Wed Dec  6 09:31:33 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:31:33 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <45768df5.yyBWR3TWThxcxvIp%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


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Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Wed Dec  6 09:38:14 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:38:14 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <45768f86.lLI4rkI8Vt81QU7D%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libksba
 Url: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/libksba/libksba-1.0.1.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Thu Dec  7 09:43:13 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 10:43:13 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <4577e231.TcTS3qUQ1Imqsf/Q%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/sitecopy
 Url: http://www.lyra.org/sitecopy/sitecopy-0.16.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tetex
 Url: ftp://dante.ctan.org/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX/current/distrib/tetex-src-3.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530
 State: Reminder

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tetex
 Url: ftp://dante.ctan.org/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX/current/distrib/tetex-texmf-3.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530
 State: Reminder

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tetex
 Url: ftp://dante.ctan.org/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX/current/distrib/tetex-texmfsrc-3.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530
 State: Reminder



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Fri Dec  8 09:26:17 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:26:17 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <45792fb9.Yx75RppGHd6SYkOc%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/apg
 Url: http://www.adel.nursat.kz/apg/download/apg-2.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: Reminder

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/lyx
 Url: ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/lyx-1.4.3.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Fri Dec  8 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <45793099.eCI8zk8xS4SP5O6S%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


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Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Sat Dec  9 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <457a8219./T4NGFAzgmggLBUg%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


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Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Sat Dec  9 09:30:14 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 10:30:14 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <457a8226.ythQSaW00mI2DSkT%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/dhcpcd
 Url: ftp://ftp.phystech.com/pub/dhcpcd-1.3.22-pl4.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'ftp.phystech.com'
 State: Reminder

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/cddb_get
 Url: http://armin.emx.at/cddb/CDDB_get-2.27.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Sun Dec 10 09:30:02 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:30:02 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <457bd39a.Us/sEglgGPxyB839%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


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Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Sun Dec 10 09:30:11 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:30:11 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <457bd3a3.OSpjZyOmt7y6nftr%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/lablgtk
 Url: http://wwwfun.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/soft/olabl/dist/lablgtk-2.6.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libpcap
 Url: http://www.tcpdump.org/release/libpcap-0.9.5.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tcpdump
 Url: http://www.tcpdump.org/release/tcpdump-3.9.5.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Mon Dec 11 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <457d2519.uSFf6zVstdFAQ/OV%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


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Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Mon Dec 11 09:54:12 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:54:12 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <457d2ac4.3EogZoq2GxO7CTIq%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libsdl
 Url: http://www.libsdl.org/release/SDL-1.2.11.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/screen
 Url: ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/utilities/screen/screen-4.0.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (8) This doesn't seem like a nice ftp-server response
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/sdl_image
 Url: http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_image/release/SDL_image-1.2.5.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/sdl_mixer
 Url: http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_mixer/release/SDL_mixer-1.2.7.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/sdl_net
 Url: http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_net/release/SDL_net-1.2.6.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/sdl_ttf
 Url: http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_ttf/release/SDL_ttf-2.0.8.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/spamprobe
 Url: http://www.mission-base.com/peter/source/pbl_1_03.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tetex
 Url: ftp://dante.ctan.org/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX/current/distrib/tetex-src-3.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tetex
 Url: ftp://dante.ctan.org/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX/current/distrib/tetex-texmf-3.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tetex
 Url: ftp://dante.ctan.org/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX/current/distrib/tetex-texmfsrc-3.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Tue Dec 12 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <457e7699.Y7XfXGzCCvA5XpRP%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


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Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Tue Dec 12 09:35:58 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:35:58 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <457e77fe.HUj4LZb4H2rGakCG%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/lyx
 Url: ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/lyx-1.4.3.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/mutt
 Url: http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/mutt/devel/mutt-1.5.13.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/mysql
 Url: http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/mysql/Downloads/MySQL-5.0/mysql-5.0.27.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Wed Dec 13 09:30:02 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:30:02 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <457fc81a.LhYQWtsWWXUsHpij%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


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Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Wed Dec 13 10:35:08 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:35:08 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <457fd75c.CzMXjmVL1OG3zxFR%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/gtk-xfce-engine
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3.1/src/gtk-xfce-engine-2.2.8.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libpng
 Url: ftp://ftp.simplesystems.org/pub/libpng/png/src/libpng-1.2.14.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libxfce4mcs
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/libxfce4mcs-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libxfce4util
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3.2/src/libxfce4util-4.2.3.2.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libxfcegui4
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/libxfcegui4-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/uw-imap
 Url: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/imap/imap-2006c1.tar.Z
 Reason: curl: (19) Given file does not exist
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfcalendar
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfcalendar-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfce-mcs-manager
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfce-mcs-plugins
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfce-utils
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfce-utils-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfce4-appfinder
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfce4-appfinder-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfce4-icon-theme
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfce4-icon-theme-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfce4-iconbox
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfce4-iconbox-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfce4-mixer
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfce4-mixer-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfce4-panel
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfce4-panel-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfce4-session
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfce4-session-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfce4-systray
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfce4-systray-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfce4-toys
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfce4-toys-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfce4-trigger-launcher
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfdesktop
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfdesktop-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xffm
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xffm-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfprint
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfprint-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfwm4
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3.2/src/xfwm4-4.2.3.2.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfwm4-themes
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfwm4-themes-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Thu Dec 14 09:26:09 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:26:09 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <458118b1.tSBTeoesVU9Dmqvx%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/avahi
 Url: http://avahi.org/download/avahi-0.6.15.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'avahi.org'
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Thu Dec 14 09:30:02 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:30:02 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <4581199a.v7ceMGImqSfUml55%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


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Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Fri Dec 15 09:30:02 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:30:02 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <45826b1a.nI3c2zzfOp9dfKV0%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


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Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Fri Dec 15 09:32:43 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:32:43 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <45826bbb.oRwyzDslrcyqs4Lz%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/apg
 Url: http://www.adel.nursat.kz/apg/download/apg-2.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: Reminder

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/fontconfig
 Url: http://fontconfig.org/release/fontconfig-2.4.2.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'fontconfig.org'
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/fortune
 Url: http://www.schwarzvogel.de/pkgs/kernelcookies-8.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/pear
 Url: http://www.varlock.com/files/pear-registry.tgz
 Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'www.varlock.com'
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/qcad
 Url: http://www.ribbonsoft.com/archives/qcad/qcad-2.0.5.0-1-community.src.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From tilman at crux.nu  Fri Dec 15 13:30:53 2006
From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:30:53 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Fixing maintainer/packager for core ports
In-Reply-To: <20061204174329.GA1190@siptp.local>
References: <20061204152009.GA2265@crux23.local>
	<20061204171531.GA1361@code-monkey.de>
	<20061204174329.GA1190@siptp.local>
Message-ID: <20061215133052.GA855@code-monkey.de>

Simone Rota [2006-12-04 18:43]:

Hi,
sorry for not responding earlier.

> On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 06:15:33PM +0100, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
> > > - Use "CRUX System Team, core-ports at crux dot nu" for
> > >   the core ports maintainer field
> > > - Use the specific maintainer for core ports that the
> > >   System Team members are not much interested in due
> > >   to personal preferences, if any (I'm thinking of 
> > >   ports like xfsprogs)
> > 
> > Okay, but what about e.g. core/bzip2? I adopted it some months ago; are
> > you suggesting to make it owned by "core system team" again?
> 
> Yes; I thought one of the main tasks of the ST was to be in charge 
> for the core ports, where some additional consistency is needed.
> The exception above was to offer better support for ports which
> cannot be reliably tested by the ST (ie if nobody uses xfs) or 
> require some specific knowledge / actual usage (ie exim)

I wasn't aware of that (didn't we want to define the group's
responsibilities and stuff some time?).

IMO it's nicer to have a specific maintainer for a port, and use the "ST
group" as a fallback if noone cares about a specific port enough to put
his name on it.

But it's not that I cannot be convinced that your scheme is superior.
Maybe it needs some voting though ;)

Regards,
Tilman

-- 
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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From sip at varlock.com  Fri Dec 15 14:02:11 2006
From: sip at varlock.com (Simone Rota)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:02:11 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Fixing maintainer/packager for core ports
In-Reply-To: <20061215133052.GA855@code-monkey.de>
References: <20061204152009.GA2265@crux23.local>
	<20061204171531.GA1361@code-monkey.de>
	<20061204174329.GA1190@siptp.local>
	<20061215133052.GA855@code-monkey.de>
Message-ID: <20061215140211.GA2497@sip>

On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 02:30:53PM +0100, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
> > Yes; I thought one of the main tasks of the ST was to be in charge 
> > for the core ports, where some additional consistency is needed.
> > The exception above was to offer better support for ports which
> > cannot be reliably tested by the ST (ie if nobody uses xfs) or 
> > require some specific knowledge / actual usage (ie exim)
> 
> I wasn't aware of that (didn't we want to define the group's
> responsibilities and stuff some time?).

That's how I got it back at the time, but you're right: we
have not talked in detail about this yet.
I have the feeling that a small system group, say a couple
of  devs, would be a more efficient solution to take care of
the tasks previusly managed by Per.

> IMO it's nicer to have a specific maintainer for a port, and use the "ST
> group" as a fallback if noone cares about a specific port enough to put
> his name on it.

Heh, exactly the opposite of my idea :)

> But it's not that I cannot be convinced that your scheme is superior.
> Maybe it needs some voting though ;)

Sure, I suggest we discuss this in next tuesday irc meeting: given
that X11R72 appears very close to release* I think we really should
get rid of our remaining doubts / tasks about CRUX 2.3

Regards,
Simone

* http://wiki.x.org/wiki/ReleaseSchedule

-- 
Simone Rota
Bergamo, Italy - http://www.varlock.com


From tilman at crux.nu  Fri Dec 15 14:12:40 2006
From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:12:40 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Fixing maintainer/packager for core ports
In-Reply-To: <20061215140211.GA2497@sip>
References: <20061204152009.GA2265@crux23.local>
	<20061204171531.GA1361@code-monkey.de>
	<20061204174329.GA1190@siptp.local>
	<20061215133052.GA855@code-monkey.de> <20061215140211.GA2497@sip>
Message-ID: <20061215141239.GA5137@code-monkey.de>

Simone Rota [2006-12-15 15:02]:
 
> [snip]
> > But it's not that I cannot be convinced that your scheme is superior.
> > Maybe it needs some voting though ;)
> 
> Sure, I suggest we discuss this in next tuesday irc meeting: given

Yes, that would be great.

> that X11R72 appears very close to release* I think we really should
> get rid of our remaining doubts / tasks about CRUX 2.3

Yeah. We finally need to resolve the fonts.dir issue, too (blame me hard
on this one).

Regards,
Tilman

-- 
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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From mark at borkware.net  Fri Dec 15 18:18:53 2006
From: mark at borkware.net (Mark Rosenstand)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:18:53 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Fixing maintainer/packager for core ports
In-Reply-To: <20061215141239.GA5137@code-monkey.de>
References: <20061204152009.GA2265@crux23.local>
	<20061204171531.GA1361@code-monkey.de>
	<20061204174329.GA1190@siptp.local>
	<20061215133052.GA855@code-monkey.de> <20061215140211.GA2497@sip>
	<20061215141239.GA5137@code-monkey.de>
Message-ID: <1166206733.870.8.camel@mjollnir.borkware.net>

On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 15:12 +0100, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote:
> Simone Rota [2006-12-15 15:02]:
>  
> > [snip]
> > > But it's not that I cannot be convinced that your scheme is superior.
> > > Maybe it needs some voting though ;)
> > 
> > Sure, I suggest we discuss this in next tuesday irc meeting: given
> 
> Yes, that would be great.
> 
> > that X11R72 appears very close to release* I think we really should
> > get rid of our remaining doubts / tasks about CRUX 2.3
> 
> Yeah. We finally need to resolve the fonts.dir issue, too (blame me hard
> on this one).

A workaround that would do for 2.3 would be to bundle fonts in packages
named by directory, e.g. all font-*-100dpi tarballs in a
xorg-fonts-100dpi package.

Looking forward, support for package scriptlets would be nice. The
scripts could be auto-generated based on file patterns at build time,
while still allowing custom scripts (e.g. running
gtk-query-immodules-2.0 in the gtk package.)



From crux at crux.nu  Sat Dec 16 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <4583bc99.CeohSwmJ0P00Yw6a%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


(no differences)


Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Sat Dec 16 09:49:55 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:49:55 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <4583c143.SIIDw5/9vrCPuNiY%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/dhcpcd
 Url: ftp://ftp.phystech.com/pub/dhcpcd-1.3.22-pl4.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'ftp.phystech.com'
 State: Reminder

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/perl
 Url: ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/src/perl-5.8.8.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (9) Server denied you to change to the given directory
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libart_lgpl
 Url: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/libart_lgpl/2.3/libart_lgpl-2.3.17.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (28) connect() timed out!
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libglade
 Url: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/platform/2.14/2.14.3/sources/libglade-2.6.0.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (28) connect() timed out!
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/pygtk
 Url: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/pygtk/2.8/pygtk-2.8.6.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (28) connect() timed out!
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From jw at smts.ch  Sat Dec 16 19:11:20 2006
From: jw at smts.ch (Johannes Winkelmann)
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:11:20 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Retirement
Message-ID: <20061216191120.GA914@titanium.smts.lan>

Hi guys,

In the past couple of weeks I increasingly lacked the time and energy to
work on CRUX, and unfortunately it looks like this situation isn't going
to change anytime soon. In addition, I've spent a good part of the last
4+ years thinking and working on various CRUX related things, and I feel
it's time to worry about other things for a change :-).
Because of that, I've decided to retire from the CRUX development team.

I'll try to attend next week's IRC meeting to discuss handing over of
ports and stuff.

It's been fun, and working with you guys was a great experience! Thanks
to all those involved!
Best wishes, Johannes
-- 
Johannes Winkelmann              mailto:jw at smts.ch
Zurich, Switzerland              http://jw.smts.ch


From sip at varlock.com  Sun Dec 17 02:43:48 2006
From: sip at varlock.com (Simone Rota)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 03:43:48 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Retirement
In-Reply-To: <20061216191120.GA914@titanium.smts.lan>
References: <20061216191120.GA914@titanium.smts.lan>
Message-ID: <20061217024348.GB2887@sip>

On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 08:11:20PM +0100, Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
> Hi guys,

Hi Johannes,
 
> In the past couple of weeks I increasingly lacked the time and energy to
> work on CRUX, and unfortunately it looks like this situation isn't going
> to change anytime soon. In addition, I've spent a good part of the last
> 4+ years thinking and working on various CRUX related things, and I feel
> it's time to worry about other things for a change :-).
> Because of that, I've decided to retire from the CRUX development team.

I cannot tell this was totally unexpected, yet it's really sad to hear
this from you.

Thank you very much for your huge contributions so far, you'll be
missed on many levels: your tech skills, spirit of initiative
and teamwork attitude have been really important for the project
itself and for the other developers as well.

Regards and good luck with the "other things" :-)

-- 
Simone Rota
Bergamo, Italy - http://www.varlock.com


From mike at openbunker.org  Sun Dec 17 07:30:50 2006
From: mike at openbunker.org (Mikhail Kolesnik)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:30:50 +0200
Subject: [crux-devel] Retirement
In-Reply-To: <20061217024348.GB2887@sip>
References: <20061216191120.GA914@titanium.smts.lan>
	<20061217024348.GB2887@sip>
Message-ID: <20061217093050.10263931@mike.staff.sky>

Hello, Simone.

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 03:43:48 +0100
Simone Rota <sip at varlock.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 08:11:20PM +0100, Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> 
> Hi Johannes,
>  
>[...] 
> I cannot tell this was totally unexpected, yet it's really sad to hear
> this from you.
> 
> Thank you very much for your huge contributions so far, you'll be
> missed on many levels: your tech skills, spirit of initiative
> and teamwork attitude have been really important for the project
> itself and for the other developers as well.
> 
> Regards and good luck with the "other things" :-)
 
Even from crux user's point Johannes was the one who really cared.

Now it appears that team reorganization was a good "save point" for the
project. Don't stop, guys!

Good night and good luck, Johannes!


From crux at crux.nu  Sun Dec 17 09:27:05 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:27:05 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <45850d69.XMQo6kKKhZNrv5SR%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/bin86
 Url: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robert.debath/dev86/bin86-0.16.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'homepage.ntlworld.com'
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Sun Dec 17 09:30:02 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:30:02 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <45850e1a.wM91LHgvCbo/faVH%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


(no differences)


Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From pitillo at ono.com  Mon Dec 18 07:31:29 2006
From: pitillo at ono.com (pitillo)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:31:29 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Retirement
In-Reply-To: <20061216191120.GA914@titanium.smts.lan>
References: <20061216191120.GA914@titanium.smts.lan>
Message-ID: <20061218083129.442bdd38@NuKleuZ.lokalix>

On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:11:20 +0100
Johannes Winkelmann <jw at smts.ch> wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> In the past couple of weeks I increasingly lacked the time and energy
> to work on CRUX, and unfortunately it looks like this situation isn't
> going to change anytime soon. In addition, I've spent a good part of
> the last 4+ years thinking and working on various CRUX related
> things, and I feel it's time to worry about other things for a
> change :-). Because of that, I've decided to retire from the CRUX
> development team.
> 
> I'll try to attend next week's IRC meeting to discuss handing over of
> ports and stuff.
> 
> It's been fun, and working with you guys was a great experience!
> Thanks to all those involved!
> Best wishes, Johannes

Hi good morning Johannes,

I didn?t meet you a lot, but I can recognice your nice work done and
the help you gave (not only in my case). I hope your change goes in the
best way. Thanks for your job.

I hope you can follow the CRUX team work in other way than dev and
don?t retire at all. Thanks a lot.

Best wishes from here Johannes.

Learning bit by bit. pitillo .


From crux at crux.nu  Mon Dec 18 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <45865f99.GTtmHJLHw9Tikt7V%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


(no differences)


Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Mon Dec 18 09:30:47 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:30:47 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <45865fc7.Vhnveb820iCsRw8h%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/man
 Url: http://primates.ximian.com/~flucifredi/man/man-1.6e.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/fortune
 Url: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/games/amusements/fortune/fortune-0.2.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'www.ibiblio.org'
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/fortune
 Url: http://www.schwarzvogel.de/pkgs/kernelcookies-8.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'www.schwarzvogel.de'
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Tue Dec 19 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <4587b119.iou9p1uHQ1MUIqb3%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


(no differences)


Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Tue Dec 19 11:17:17 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:17:17 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <4587ca3d.O2ZuxxKaTItp1Ne2%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/gnupg
 Url: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/gnupg/gnupg-2.0.1.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libassuan
 Url: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/libassuan/libassuan-1.0.1.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (28) a timeout was reached
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libpng
 Url: ftp://ftp.simplesystems.org/pub/libpng/png/src/libpng-1.2.14.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/nss
 Url: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/security/nss/releases/NSS_3_9_2_RTM/src/nss-3.9.2.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (8) This doesn't seem like a nice ftp-server response
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/screen
 Url: ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/utilities/screen/screen-4.0.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (8) This doesn't seem like a nice ftp-server response
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/subversion
 Url: http://subversion.tigris.org/downloads/subversion-1.4.2.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tetex
 Url: ftp://dante.ctan.org/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX/current/distrib/tetex-src-3.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530
 State: Reminder

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tetex
 Url: ftp://dante.ctan.org/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX/current/distrib/tetex-texmf-3.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530
 State: Reminder

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tetex
 Url: ftp://dante.ctan.org/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX/current/distrib/tetex-texmfsrc-3.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530
 State: Reminder



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From clemens.koller at anagramm.de  Wed Dec 20 01:49:06 2006
From: clemens.koller at anagramm.de (Clemens Koller)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:49:06 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Retirement
In-Reply-To: <20061216191120.GA914@titanium.smts.lan>
References: <20061216191120.GA914@titanium.smts.lan>
Message-ID: <45889692.6020709@anagramm.de>

Hi, Johannes!

> Because of that, I've decided to retire from the CRUX development team.

Okay... Hmmm... :-(
...but time squeezes all men under it's foot like a bug.

It's a pity for everybody who leaves the Team. :-(
But there are indeed more important things in live
besides computers.

Thank you for the time your spent with the team
and thanks for your time you spent with CRUX!

Good luck to you!

Clemens Koller
_______________________________
R&D Imaging Devices
Anagramm GmbH
Rupert-Mayer-Str. 45/1
81379 Muenchen
Germany

http://www.anagramm-technology.com
Phone: +49-89-741518-50
Fax: +49-89-741518-19


From crux at crux.nu  Wed Dec 20 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <45890299.xz7XsjHLfW5ZVuot%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


(no differences)


Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Wed Dec 20 09:31:00 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:31:00 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <458902d4.GhjXXTF0OVsbNxsd%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libksba
 Url: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/libksba/libksba-1.0.1.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Thu Dec 21 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <458a5419.WPWCVXZQwc8HQD8/%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


(no differences)


Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Thu Dec 21 09:36:20 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:36:20 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <458a5594.vutaqFqCeWS8mj13%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/perl
 Url: ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/src/perl-5.8.8.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (9) Server denied you to change to the given directory
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libassuan
 Url: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/libassuan/libassuan-1.0.1.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed
 State: Changed reason

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tdl
 Url: http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/tdl/tdl-1.5.2.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk'
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From tillbiedermann at yahoo.de  Thu Dec 21 22:48:41 2006
From: tillbiedermann at yahoo.de (Till Biedermann)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 23:48:41 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Sign of life
Message-ID: <458B0F49.9080403@yahoo.de>



Hello everybody,

this was a very long time-out, but now i reached a new stage of life
.... yes, i finally finished my study :-)

I have settled down in Munich for now. I got a job here at an automotive
engineering service provider. Step by step my life is normalizing, and i
will have time for everything that was missed out during the last year.

One of these things is CRUX. At the moment i'm on the way to read
through the mailing list and the website to find out what was going on
during my absence. I saw 'git' is the rcs of choice now (i'm glad i did
not delved my knowledge about svn :-) ).

So after chrismas-holidays and the turn of the year i will start with
adopting the maintenance of some ports. Regarding responsibilities, i
think the infra team is the right place for me - take this as
application. I hope there are still some tasks to assign.


So far, i wish you all a merry Christmas and a happy new year.

Regards,
Till



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From tillbiedermann at yahoo.de  Thu Dec 21 23:39:12 2006
From: tillbiedermann at yahoo.de (Till Biedermann)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:39:12 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Retirement
In-Reply-To: <20061216191120.GA914@titanium.smts.lan>
References: <20061216191120.GA914@titanium.smts.lan>
Message-ID: <458B1B20.9040407@yahoo.de>



Hi Johannes,

Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
> [....]
> Because of that, I've decided to retire from the CRUX development team.
> 

:-( Mmmh .... very sad to hear that, but i am sure this decision was not
easy for you and therefor it is well considered.

You have done a _lot_ for CRUX. I have always admired your commitment in
the devel-team, your extensive proposals on the public mailing list as
well as the support you gave everybody asking you directly. And not to
forget the tools and apps you developed for CRUX. Unimaginable how much
time this must have taken.

So after writing down these thoughts, i must admit i understand your
decision. Nevertheless, i hope you will raise your voice from time to
time on the mailing list or where ever ....

Anyhow, thank you a lot for your work. All the best to you and good luck
with everything you will tackle in the future.


Best Regards,
Till



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From jdolan at jdolan.dyndns.org  Fri Dec 22 02:59:02 2006
From: jdolan at jdolan.dyndns.org (Jay Dolan)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:59:02 -0500
Subject: [crux-devel] Retirement
In-Reply-To: <458B1B20.9040407@yahoo.de>
References: <20061216191120.GA914@titanium.smts.lan>
	<458B1B20.9040407@yahoo.de>
Message-ID: <458B49F6.5090601@jdolan.dyndns.org>

Till Biedermann wrote:
> Hi Johannes,
>
> Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
>   
>> [....]
>> Because of that, I've decided to retire from the CRUX development team.
>>
>>     
>
> :-( Mmmh .... very sad to hear that, but i am sure this decision was not
> easy for you and therefor it is well considered.
>
> You have done a _lot_ for CRUX. I have always admired your commitment in
> the devel-team, your extensive proposals on the public mailing list as
> well as the support you gave everybody asking you directly. And not to
> forget the tools and apps you developed for CRUX. Unimaginable how much
> time this must have taken.
>
> So after writing down these thoughts, i must admit i understand your
> decision. Nevertheless, i hope you will raise your voice from time to
> time on the mailing list or where ever ....
>
> Anyhow, thank you a lot for your work. All the best to you and good luck
> with everything you will tackle in the future.
>   

I should have replied to this sooner.  Everything Till said.

Johannes, having been a CRUX user for a long time, and having met you in 
person twice, I can only add to the sentiment that you will be missed.  
Thanks very much for all that you accomplished throughout your journey 
with this community.  We would be farther along if we had more guys like 
you.. but I don't think there are many.  Good luck, stay in touch!

-- 
Jay Dolan
jdolan.dyndns.org

A: Because it's difficult to read.
Q: Why is top-posting bad?
A: Top posting.
Q: What's the most annoying thing about usenet?




From crux at crux.nu  Fri Dec 22 09:28:45 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:28:45 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <458ba54d.02xkiNexCD1FKQcU%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/libstdc++-compat
 Url: http://www.fukt.bsnet.se/~per/crux/files/libstdc++/libstdc++-2-libc6.1-1-2.9.0.so
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/libstdc++-compat
 Url: http://www.fukt.bsnet.se/~per/crux/files/libstdc++/libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/libstdc++-compat
 Url: http://www.fukt.bsnet.se/~per/crux/files/libstdc++/libstdc++.so.5.0.6
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/ports
 Url: http://www.fukt.bsnet.se/~per/crux/files/ports/ports-1.5.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/imagemagick
 Url: ftp://ftp.imagemagick.org/pub/ImageMagick/ImageMagick-6.3.1-2.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (19) Given file does not exist
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/linux-identd
 Url: http://www.fukt.bsnet.se/~per/identd/linux-identd-1.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xemacs-sumo
 Url: ftp://ftp.ch.xemacs.org/mirror/xemacs/packages/xemacs-sumo-2006-05-10.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (19) Given file does not exist
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Fri Dec 22 09:30:02 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:30:02 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <458ba59a.XAlWQ7kw4vLrx6CL%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


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Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From tilman at crux.nu  Fri Dec 22 15:28:14 2006
From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:28:14 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Weekly mini meeting
Message-ID: <20061222152813.GA1324@code-monkey.de>

Hi guys,
I don't think we ever formally announced our weekly mini meeting.

For some weeks now, we try to get together on Tuesdays at 19:00 GMT,
in #crux-devel. If you can make it, that's great - if you can't, don't
worry (if there's more important stuff to discuss on IRC, we'll announce
it separately).

Non-developers are welcome to follow the meetings.

Regards,
Tilman

-- 
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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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From sip at varlock.com  Fri Dec 22 23:48:33 2006
From: sip at varlock.com (Simone Rota)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 00:48:33 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Sign of life
In-Reply-To: <458B0F49.9080403@yahoo.de>
References: <458B0F49.9080403@yahoo.de>
Message-ID: <20061222234833.GB2498@sip>

On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 11:48:41PM +0100, Till Biedermann wrote:
> Hello everybody,

Hey Till,
 
> this was a very long time-out, but now i reached a new stage of life
> .... yes, i finally finished my study :-)
> 
> I have settled down in Munich for now. I got a job here at an automotive
> engineering service provider. Step by step my life is normalizing, and i
> will have time for everything that was missed out during the last year.

Glad to hear things are working well for you. Additionally I now have
a host for next Oktoberfest ;-)

> So after chrismas-holidays and the turn of the year i will start with
> adopting the maintenance of some ports. Regarding responsibilities, i
> think the infra team is the right place for me - take this as
> application. I hope there are still some tasks to assign.

Great, it's a nice chance for getting things in shape right after
the 2.3 release.

Regards,
Simone

-- 
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Bergamo, Italy - http://www.varlock.com


From crux at crux.nu  Sat Dec 23 09:30:02 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:30:02 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <458cf71a.Ub8Jfji/DmmvBrvY%crux@crux.nu>

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From sip at varlock.com  Sat Dec 23 14:04:00 2006
From: sip at varlock.com (Simone Rota)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:04:00 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] crux 2.3 test 1
Message-ID: <20061223140400.GA2243@sip>

Hi,

I published a test iso image of crux 2.3 [1]

Important notes:

- Upgrade is *totally untested* so far, please choose a
  fresh installation if possible. That said, I manually
  upgraded a live system with pkgadd with no problems.

- Same setup procedure as with 2.2, with the exception
  we now have a setup-chroot command which does the
  mounting of sysfs,procfs, etc and chroots to /mnt
  (feel free to keep doing it manually :))

- If you install xorg be sure to issue the post-install
  commands sugested in Tilman's howto[2]

The following things are missing/different from what
will be a real release candidate:

- X11R7.2 is not out yet, so we're stuck with 7.1
- Temporally disabled madwifi
- I did not spend too much time configuring the 2.6.19.1 kernel
  for the livecd; given the latest changes (in particular regarding
  the new pata interface), some review and suggestion would be nice.


Apart from testing the prerelease itself, this may come handy
since it should be able to bootstrap a 2.3 release from our
git repos at 1st try.

Regards,
Simone

[1] http://crux.nu/~sip/test/crux-2.3-test1.iso
    http://crux.nu/~sip/test/crux-2.3-test1.iso.md5
[2] http://crux.nu/Main/InstallingX11R7

-- 
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Bergamo, Italy - http://www.varlock.com


From tilman at crux.nu  Sat Dec 23 22:57:18 2006
From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck)
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:57:18 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] crux 2.3 test 1
In-Reply-To: <20061223140400.GA2243@sip>
References: <20061223140400.GA2243@sip>
Message-ID: <20061223225717.GA2025@code-monkey.de>

Simone Rota [2006-12-23 15:04]:
> I published a test iso image of crux 2.3 [1]

Excellent, thanks :)

> - I did not spend too much time configuring the 2.6.19.1 kernel
>   for the livecd; given the latest changes (in particular regarding
>   the new pata interface), some review and suggestion would be nice.

See the "libata PATA" paragraph on:
http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_19
-> I think we should stick with the old drivers.

Regards,
Tilman

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From crux at crux.nu  Sun Dec 24 09:27:37 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 10:27:37 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <458e4809.x7P9JfjpXhQ82AdT%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/dhcpcd
 Url: ftp://ftp.phystech.com/pub/dhcpcd-1.3.22-pl4.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'ftp.phystech.com'
 State: Reminder

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libsdl
 Url: http://www.libsdl.org/release/SDL-1.2.11.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/sdl_image
 Url: http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_image/release/SDL_image-1.2.5.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/sdl_mixer
 Url: http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_mixer/release/SDL_mixer-1.2.7.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/sdl_net
 Url: http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_net/release/SDL_net-1.2.6.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/sdl_ttf
 Url: http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_ttf/release/SDL_ttf-2.0.8.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Sun Dec 24 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <458e4899.eDfZuW1cyKD+PidD%crux@crux.nu>

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From crux at crux.nu  Mon Dec 25 09:30:02 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:30:02 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <458f9a1a.iQXhmEfVNsEed+HI%crux@crux.nu>

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From crux at crux.nu  Mon Dec 25 10:14:18 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:14:18 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <458fa47a.trYYy5GpimfoOjel%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/gnupg
 Url: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/gnupg/gnupg-2.0.1.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/samba
 Url: http://us1.samba.org/samba/ftp/stable/samba-3.0.23d.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Tue Dec 26 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <4590eb99.mPpInq/zhkrTmUYQ%crux@crux.nu>

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From crux at crux.nu  Tue Dec 26 09:33:23 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 10:33:23 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <4590ec63.2Lh4dKQeA0R4U8WR%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/gnupg
 Url: ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/gnupg/gnupg-2.0.1.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: Changed reason



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Wed Dec 27 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <45923d19.56BzvCD0Vdyd7ox6%crux@crux.nu>

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From crux at crux.nu  Wed Dec 27 09:38:16 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:38:16 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <45923f08.fpAu8xLWbmAl0Xwv%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/elinks
 Url: http://elinks.or.cz/download/elinks-0.11.2.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/imagemagick
 Url: ftp://ftp.imagemagick.org/pub/ImageMagick/ImageMagick-6.3.1-3.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (19) Given file does not exist
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/screen
 Url: ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/utilities/screen/screen-4.0.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tetex
 Url: ftp://dante.ctan.org/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX/current/distrib/tetex-src-3.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530
 State: Reminder

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tetex
 Url: ftp://dante.ctan.org/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX/current/distrib/tetex-texmf-3.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530
 State: Reminder

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/tetex
 Url: ftp://dante.ctan.org/pub/tex/systems/unix/teTeX/current/distrib/tetex-texmfsrc-3.0.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530
 State: Reminder



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Thu Dec 28 09:30:02 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 10:30:02 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <45938e9a.pK+uHOg5NpCZe1oX%crux@crux.nu>

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From crux at crux.nu  Thu Dec 28 15:19:42 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:19:42 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <4593e08e.ErapyVl+QsfzTZwQ%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/core/perl
 Url: ftp://ftp.perl.org/pub/CPAN/src/perl-5.8.8.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (9) Server denied you to change to the given directory
 State: Reminder

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/rxvt-unicode
 Url: http://dist.schmorp.de/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode-8.1.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/wvdial
 Url: http://open.nit.ca/download/wvdial-1.56.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/wvdial
 Url: http://open.nit.ca/download/wvstreams-4.2.2.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfdesktop
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfdesktop-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xffm
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xffm-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfprint
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfprint-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfwm4
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3.2/src/xfwm4-4.2.3.2.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xfwm4-themes
 Url: http://www.us.xfce.org/archive/xfce-4.2.3/src/xfwm4-themes-4.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Fri Dec 29 09:30:02 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:30:02 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <4594e01a.VF6UFC0c0WwhQ4FF%crux@crux.nu>

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From crux at crux.nu  Fri Dec 29 09:53:53 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:53:53 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <4594e5b1.jWzNCC0R7seBj9cc%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libpcap
 Url: http://www.tcpdump.org/release/libpcap-0.9.5.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/libpng
 Url: ftp://ftp.simplesystems.org/pub/libpng/png/src/libpng-1.2.14.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/pkgsync
 Url: http://jdolan.dyndns.org/jaydolan/files/pkgsync-1.4.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/pymp
 Url: http://jdolan.dyndns.org/jaydolan/files/pymp-0.9.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/qt3
 Url: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-x11-free-3.3.7.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed
 State: New

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/xemacs-sumo
 Url: ftp://ftp.ch.xemacs.org/mirror/xemacs/packages/xemacs-sumo-2006-05-10.tar.bz2
 Reason: curl: (19) Given file does not exist
 State: Reminder



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Sat Dec 30 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <45963199.+qFTaivf5wfgLdEK%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


(no differences)


Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log


From crux at crux.nu  Sat Dec 30 10:03:33 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:03:33 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads
Message-ID: <45963975.Tn2DiwX0gZFYwWSL%crux@crux.nu>

Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.2/opt/apg
 Url: http://www.adel.nursat.kz/apg/download/apg-2.2.3.tar.gz
 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
 State: Reminder



Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html


From crux at crux.nu  Sun Dec 31 09:30:01 2006
From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu)
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:30:01 +0100
Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results
Message-ID: <45978319.UxB1LbvLWqS24Wse%crux@crux.nu>

Differences since last check:


(no differences)


Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log