From crux at crux.nu Wed Aug 1 08:30:56 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 10:30:56 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46b044c0.WhS8SvfVdMS2MIdR%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/cups Url: http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/cups/1.2.12/cups-1.2.12-source.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/ghostscript Url: http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/ghostscript/8.15.4/espgs-8.15.4-source.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/ncftp Url: ftp://ftp.ncftp.com/ncftp/ncftp-3.2.0-src.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (19) Given file does not exist State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Wed Aug 1 08:31:25 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 10:31:25 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46b044dd.MOdGb9/BNsKf7nJf%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: 5a6,7 > WARN core/automake ............ junk file found: usr/share/automake-1.10/COPYING > WARN core/automake ............ junk file found: usr/share/automake-1.10/INSTALL Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Thu Aug 2 08:24:09 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:24:09 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46b194a9.r8G/I8bDyx20sg+z%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/p5-xml-parser Url: http://cpan.develooper.com/modules/by-category/11_String_Lang_Text_Proc/XML/XML-Parser-2.34.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Thu Aug 2 08:31:24 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:31:24 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46b1965c.YKI1nj3hsX/bvp4o%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Fri Aug 3 08:31:27 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:31:27 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46b2e7df.l3ZB1tZEKE/OGwSv%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Fri Aug 3 08:58:08 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:58:08 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46b2ee20.awMNblI/FMVRmocC%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/coreutils Url: http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/coreutils/coreutils-6.9.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/cpio Url: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/cpio/cpio-2.9.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/findutils Url: http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/findutils/findutils-4.2.31.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/glibc Url: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.5.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/gzip Url: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gzip/gzip-1.3.12.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/tcsh Url: ftp://ftp.astron.com/pub/tcsh/tcsh-6.15.00.tar.gz Reason: curl: (8) This doesn't seem like a nice ftp-server response State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/wget Url: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/wget/wget-1.10.2.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/aspell Url: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/aspell/aspell-0.60.5.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/grub Url: ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/grub-0.97.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libpth Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/pth/pth-2.0.7.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libtiff Url: ftp://ftp.remotesensing.org/libtiff/tiff-3.8.2.tar.gz Reason: curl: (8) This doesn't seem like a nice ftp-server response State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/linneighborhood Url: http://www.bnro.de/~schmidjo/download/LinNeighborhood-0.6.5.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Sat Aug 4 08:30:53 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:30:53 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46b4393d.5c/VvKFZ2VT58hcM%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/directfb Url: http://www.directfb.org/downloads/Core/DirectFB-1.0.0.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libpcap Url: http://www.tcpdump.org/release/libpcap-0.9.7.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/linux-fusion Url: http://www.directfb.org/downloads/Core/linux-fusion-3.2.3.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/netpbm Url: http://aon.iki.fi/files/netpbm/netpbm-10.35.29.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/psutils Url: ftp://ftp.enst.fr/pub/unix/a2ps/psutils-1.17.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/tcpdump Url: http://www.tcpdump.org/release/tcpdump-3.9.7.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/xaw3d Url: ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/widgets/Xaw3d/R6.3/Xaw3d-1.5.tar.gz Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'ftp.x.org' State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Sat Aug 4 08:31:25 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:31:25 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46b4395d.RkIopC0r+PB7MCA2%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: 62a63 > ERROR opt/ghostscript .......... directory not allowed: usr/man/de/ Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Sun Aug 5 08:31:23 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:31:23 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46b58adb.z/eqLyaCGkG7Wcf9%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: 63d62 < ERROR opt/ghostscript .......... directory not allowed: usr/man/de/ Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Sun Aug 5 09:28:47 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:28:47 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46b5984f.ba7Tdg/W6CWMvN68%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libtiff Url: ftp://ftp.remotesensing.org/libtiff/tiff-3.8.2.tar.gz Reason: curl: (28) a timeout was reached State: Changed reason Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/psutils Url: ftp://ftp.enst.fr/pub/unix/a2ps/psutils-1.17.tar.gz Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed State: Changed reason Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/qt3 Url: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-x11-free-3.3.7.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Mon Aug 6 08:31:26 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 10:31:26 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46b6dc5e.EH0WPPlh+tD/2vkf%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Tue Aug 7 08:31:31 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:31:31 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46b82de3.JICpNmxSrqyM74tk%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Wed Aug 8 08:21:39 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 10:21:39 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46b97d13./Omyri8drObvwo3U%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/cmus Url: http://onion.dynserv.net/~timo/files/cmus-2.2.0.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'onion.dynserv.net' State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Wed Aug 8 08:31:25 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 10:31:25 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46b97f5d.IsjL0bz+UT/iEGtV%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From tilman at crux.nu Wed Aug 8 23:16:31 2007 From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:16:31 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] pkgutils 6 Message-ID: <20070808231631.GA15792@code-monkey.de> Hi guys, over the last few days I have started working on the next major incarnation of pkgutils, version 6. All of the package/archive and database handling has been moved into a library (atm called libpkgutils), which is used by our small trio of apps, pkg{info,add,rm}. As we had planned for a long time now, this rewrite is done in C instead of C++. None of the libpkgutils API is final yet of course, so feel free to make comments or suggestions. So far I've implemented functionality for almost all of pkginfo's features, and pkgrm. Feel free to test those, but please make a backup of your package database before trying pkgrm :) The code is available in the pkgutils6 branch of the pkgutils.git repository: http://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=tools/pkgutils.git;a=shortlog;h=pkgutils6 Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <20070809224808.GA20184@code-monkey.de> Hi, one of the few things that I remember about the ancient CLC days was that the rules had an item like this: "Contributors need a real name. [...]" I couldn't find anything about this in the wiki, so my question is whether we still believe that contributors (contrib users and core/opt maintainers) need to have a real name? Personally it makes me feel uneasy when I imagine commits in our git tree that are attributed to people by nick name only. Maybe it's just me, and maybe I'm crazy :) What do you guys think? Do CRUX contributors and developer need to have a real name or not? Regards, Tilman P.S.: I'm not just trying to raise the amount of meaningful traffic on crux-devel with this :D -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From crux at crux.nu Fri Aug 10 08:31:26 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:31:26 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46bc225e.0jCJDZseglP4btB6%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Fri Aug 10 08:37:13 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:37:13 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46bc23b9.49ZpnqxFKhzGnytD%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/e2fsprogs Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs-1.40.2.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/expat Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/expat/expat-2.0.1.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From jue at jue.li Fri Aug 10 10:50:18 2007 From: jue at jue.li (Juergen Daubert) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:50:18 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Do contributors need a real name? In-Reply-To: <20070809224808.GA20184@code-monkey.de> References: <20070809224808.GA20184@code-monkey.de> Message-ID: <20070810105018.GA2317@jue.netz> On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 12:48:09AM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > Hi, > one of the few things that I remember about the ancient CLC days was > that the rules had an item like this: > "Contributors need a real name. [...]" the backup of my CLC wiki database shows me that we have exactly the sentence "Additionally, maintainers need a realname." > I couldn't find anything about this in the wiki, so my question is > whether we still believe that contributors (contrib users and core/opt > maintainers) need to have a real name? Yes, in my opinion that's still a sensible prerequisite, so we should add it to our rules again. regards Juergen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue at jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux From sip at varlock.com Fri Aug 10 10:57:38 2007 From: sip at varlock.com (Simone Rota) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:57:38 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Do contributors need a real name? In-Reply-To: <20070809224808.GA20184@code-monkey.de> References: <20070809224808.GA20184@code-monkey.de> Message-ID: <20070810105738.GA2367@sip> On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 12:48:09AM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > Hi, Hey, > one of the few things that I remember about the ancient CLC days was > that the rules had an item like this: > "Contributors need a real name. [...]" > [..] > What do you guys think? Do CRUX contributors and developer need to have > a real name or not? Definitely. We all know one could use Jack O'Fake anyway, but it's always nice to have a name to deal with. Not sure how we lost that bit with the site migration, nyway I suggest we update http://crux.nu/Main/HowToContribute Regards, Simone -- Simone Rota Bergamo, Italy - http://www.varlock.com From crux at crux.nu Sat Aug 11 08:31:25 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:31:25 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46bd73dd.otgCpXtKA3RjXNWe%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Sat Aug 11 09:37:52 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:37:52 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46bd8370.7s3wd0K9XYiTPvnG%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/flex Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/flex/flex-2.5.33.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/hdparm Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/hdparm/hdparm-7.7.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/libusb Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/libusb/libusb-0.1.12.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/nasm Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/nasm/nasm-0.98.39.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/nfs-utils Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/nfs/nfs-utils-1.1.0.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/psmisc Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/psmisc/psmisc-22.5.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/slocate Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/slocate/slocate-2.7.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't 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/home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/freetype Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/freetype/freetype-2.3.5.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/fuse Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/fuse/fuse-2.7.0.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/ghostscript Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ghostscript/ghostscript-8.60.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/ghostscript Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gs-fonts/ghostscript-fonts-std-8.11.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/gimp-print Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gimp-print/gimp-print-4.2.7.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/gnuplot Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gnuplot/gnuplot-4.2.0.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/gqview Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/gqview/gqview-2.0.4.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/gtklp Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gtklp/gtklp-1.2.3.src.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/hpijs Url: http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/hplip/hplip-1.7.4a.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From tilman at crux.nu Sat Aug 11 15:10:12 2007 From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:10:12 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] pkgutils 6 In-Reply-To: <20070808231631.GA15792@code-monkey.de> References: <20070808231631.GA15792@code-monkey.de> Message-ID: <20070811151010.GA26307@code-monkey.de> Tilman Sauerbeck [2007-08-09 01:16]: > over the last few days I have started working on the next major > incarnation of pkgutils, version 6. I was bored earlier today and compared the run times and memory usage of "pkginfo -i" from pkgutils-c 1.5 and the tip of the pkgutils6 branch. I only ran each binary once, as I'm mostly interested in memory usage here (memory usage should be constant no matter whether you're running with a hot or a cold cache, whereas run time typically won't be). Here's the graphs from valgrind resp. massif: pkgutils-c 1.5: http://crux.nu/~tilman/pkginfo_i.1.5.png pkgutils6: http://crux.nu/~tilman/pkginfo_i.6.png I'll leave the interpretation of these graphs to you ;) NB: pkgutils6 is work-in-progress, so take these numbers with a grain of salt. Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(tilman don't shoot me :P) -- Best Regards, Jonathan Asghar phone: 512.619.0722 From cbou at mail.ru Sat Aug 11 22:35:46 2007 From: cbou at mail.ru (Anton Vorontsov) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 02:35:46 +0400 Subject: [crux-devel] pkgutils 6 In-Reply-To: <20070811151010.GA26307@code-monkey.de> References: <20070808231631.GA15792@code-monkey.de> <20070811151010.GA26307@code-monkey.de> Message-ID: <20070811223546.GA1135@zarina> On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 05:10:12PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > Tilman Sauerbeck [2007-08-09 01:16]: > > over the last few days I have started working on the next major > > incarnation of pkgutils, version 6. > > I was bored earlier today and compared the run times and memory usage of > "pkginfo -i" from pkgutils-c 1.5 and the tip of the pkgutils6 branch. > > I only ran each binary once, as I'm mostly interested in memory usage > here (memory usage should be constant no matter whether you're running > with a hot or a cold cache, whereas run time typically won't be). > > Here's the graphs from valgrind resp. massif: > > pkgutils-c 1.5: http://crux.nu/~tilman/pkginfo_i.1.5.png > pkgutils6: http://crux.nu/~tilman/pkginfo_i.6.png > > I'll leave the interpretation of these graphs to you ;) I really doubt that you didn't know the reason: Let's see what pkgutils6 is doing: static void list_installed_cb (PkgPackage *pkg, void *user_data) { printf ("%s %s-%s\n", pkg->name, pkg->version, pkg->release); } ... pkg_database_read_package_list (db, PKG_DATABASE_READ_NAMES_ONLY); pkg_database_foreach (db, list_installed_cb, NULL); pkg_database_unref (db); ... I.e. you're just reading package names in memory. So, you're using ad-hoc methods, and yes they're faster, eat less memory. While pkgutils-c's functions to the database done w/o premature optimizations: pkg_init_db(); list_for_each(_pkg, &pkg_db) { struct pkg_desc *pkg = _pkg->data; printf("%s %s\n", pkg->name, pkg->version); } pkg_free_db(); That mean pkgutils-c reading whole database, including files listing, where unnecessary (well, only in pkginfo -i case, the only I can imagine). Is it easy to optimize (if you'd really want to)? Yes, less than 30 lines patch. I'll not believe that you didn't find the way to do such optimization in the pkgutils-c, if you'd want to. But... thanks for the idea, maybe I'll implement such specific optimization, myself. Now, let's compare pkgrm? pkgadd would be more interesting, but you haven't done this. pkgadd/pkgrm needs whole db. pkgutils6/src# time ./pkgrm gtk real 0m0.979s user 0m0.867s sys 0m0.043s # time pkgrm gtk real 0m0.440s user 0m0.153s sys 0m0.080s It's warm start. pkgutils-c runs twice faster. And looking at the pkgutils6's code, I can tell that pkgutils-c (comparing to pkgutils6) will be faster as db and package size grows, while pkgutils6 will be more and more slower, comparing to pkgutils-c. At the same time pkgutils-c still eats a bit more memory. Why? Because in addition to db size, pkgutils-c using temporary storage for sorting, to use faster algorithms. Can I make pkgutils-c faster with less memory consumption? It depends. In-place list sorting is slower, but maybe there will be some win because of less memory management stuff. Not sure, lazy to calc. (And btw, keeping db in rb-tree would be definitely faster, with less memory consumption. But it will complicate code, a bit). Who will do these tests and optimizations for pkgutils-c? Not you, surely. NIH syndrome won't let you do this. In the same time, you'll test and profile your pkgutils6. Quite illogical, but it's what NIH syndrome is all about. You won't optimize someone's else code, but you will make your own, and then _anyway_ will test/fix/profile/optimize it. Oh, I've just said "quite illogical"? No, it's damn moronic. Anyhow, good luck with it, -- Anton Vorontsov email: cbou at mail.ru backup email: ya-cbou at yandex.ru irc://irc.freenode.net/bd2 From crux at crux.nu Sun Aug 12 08:20:22 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:20:22 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46bec2c6.d7egPzmcHfuxRaor%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/bzip2 Url: http://www.bzip.org/1.0.4/bzip2-1.0.4.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/valgrind Url: http://valgrind.org/downloads/valgrind-3.2.3.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Sun Aug 12 08:31:23 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:31:23 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46bec55b.e3dBtduhzks8RYNp%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From tilman at crux.nu Sun Aug 12 08:34:16 2007 From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:34:16 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] pkgutils 6 In-Reply-To: <20070811223546.GA1135@zarina> References: <20070808231631.GA15792@code-monkey.de> <20070811151010.GA26307@code-monkey.de> <20070811223546.GA1135@zarina> Message-ID: <20070812083416.GA849@code-monkey.de> Anton Vorontsov [2007-08-12 02:35]: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 05:10:12PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > > Tilman Sauerbeck [2007-08-09 01:16]: > > > over the last few days I have started working on the next major > > > incarnation of pkgutils, version 6. > > > > I was bored earlier today and compared the run times and memory usage of > > "pkginfo -i" from pkgutils-c 1.5 and the tip of the pkgutils6 branch. > > > > I only ran each binary once, as I'm mostly interested in memory usage > > here (memory usage should be constant no matter whether you're running > > with a hot or a cold cache, whereas run time typically won't be). > > > > Here's the graphs from valgrind resp. massif: > > > > pkgutils-c 1.5: http://crux.nu/~tilman/pkginfo_i.1.5.png > > pkgutils6: http://crux.nu/~tilman/pkginfo_i.6.png > > > > I'll leave the interpretation of these graphs to you ;) > > I really doubt that you didn't know the reason: Yes, I do know the reason. Hint: don't start your replies by implying ignorance. It doesn't really increase my willingness to give a thorough answer. > I.e. you're just reading package names in memory. So, you're using > ad-hoc methods, and yes they're faster, eat less memory. While > pkgutils-c's functions to the database done w/o premature > optimizations: I remember that you accused me of wasting memory. Guess in the pkginfo-i case it's you instead who's eating RAM alive. ...and that's the whole point of my previous mail. Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cbou at mail.ru Sun Aug 12 10:18:46 2007 From: cbou at mail.ru (Anton Vorontsov) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:18:46 +0400 Subject: [crux-devel] pkgutils 6 In-Reply-To: <20070812083416.GA849@code-monkey.de> References: <20070808231631.GA15792@code-monkey.de> <20070811151010.GA26307@code-monkey.de> <20070811223546.GA1135@zarina> <20070812083416.GA849@code-monkey.de> Message-ID: <20070812101845.GA2723@zarina> On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 10:34:16AM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > Anton Vorontsov [2007-08-12 02:35]: > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 05:10:12PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > > > Tilman Sauerbeck [2007-08-09 01:16]: > > > > over the last few days I have started working on the next major > > > > incarnation of pkgutils, version 6. > > > > > > I was bored earlier today and compared the run times and memory usage of > > > "pkginfo -i" from pkgutils-c 1.5 and the tip of the pkgutils6 branch. > > > > > > I only ran each binary once, as I'm mostly interested in memory usage > > > here (memory usage should be constant no matter whether you're running > > > with a hot or a cold cache, whereas run time typically won't be). > > > > > > Here's the graphs from valgrind resp. massif: > > > > > > pkgutils-c 1.5: http://crux.nu/~tilman/pkginfo_i.1.5.png > > > pkgutils6: http://crux.nu/~tilman/pkginfo_i.6.png > > > > > > I'll leave the interpretation of these graphs to you ;) > > > > I really doubt that you didn't know the reason: > > Yes, I do know the reason. > Hint: don't start your replies by implying ignorance. It doesn't really > increase my willingness to give a thorough answer. > > > I.e. you're just reading package names in memory. So, you're using > > ad-hoc methods, and yes they're faster, eat less memory. While > > pkgutils-c's functions to the database done w/o premature > > optimizations: > > I remember that you accused me of wasting memory. > Guess in the pkginfo-i case it's you instead who's eating RAM alive. You're speaking about completely different things, and you _know_ it. Doing struct pkg { char name[NAMESIZE]; char version[VERSIONSIZE]; ... }; Is just ugly and regression against _original_ pkgutils, you're adding constraints, and wasting memory w/o any hope to easily optimize it. And I told you about _that_. You seem to "fix" it after: struct pkg { ... char version[VERSIONSIZE]; char name[]; }; Heh. You've "fixed" name, but in the current code you can't easily fix version's constraint (or any another), and well... you didn't. On the other hand, not-reading files listing on -i - is a light and easy to do optimization, not some memory management issue that you've made ugly from the very start. And I hardly can imagine where you've found similar points of these two issues, and why you've decided to use silly "-i" example to show that pkgutils-c "ZOMG wastes" memory. Unrelated to this email: please, remove all those constraints, implement all the features, test, fix bugs and then compare. Will be pkgutils6 faster? With less memory consumption? Okay, I'll have reference point to optimize my code. Until that, _you_ have two reference points - pkgutils-c and C++ish pkgutils, while I have none for today. And I know it's easier to have it than not (I was using C++ish pkgutils for it). Good luck, -- Anton Vorontsov email: cbou at mail.ru backup email: ya-cbou at yandex.ru irc://irc.freenode.net/bd2 From crux at crux.nu Mon Aug 13 08:29:09 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:29:09 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46c01655.UqETutVPMpcYuh5c%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/foomatic-filters Url: http://www.linuxprinting.org/download/foomatic/foomatic-filters-3.0.2.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/mysql-python Url: http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.5/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c5-py2.5.egg Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Mon Aug 13 08:31:26 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:31:26 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: 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(7) couldn't connect to host State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Tue Aug 14 08:31:25 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:31:25 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46c1685d.XhwPptKt3FfyAE+k%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Wed Aug 15 08:23:51 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:23:51 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46c2b817.cS5iqcW/8ma9s5ij%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/uw-imap Url: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/imap/imap-2006j2.tar.Z Reason: curl: (19) Given file does not exist State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Wed Aug 15 08:31:30 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:31:30 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46c2b9e2.hQfEZI8NQBIWj5Eg%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Thu Aug 16 08:31:27 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:31:27 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46c40b5f.l42okNjt0pkU8Qf1%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Thu Aug 16 08:43:27 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:43:27 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46c40e2f.Dr5ZUSMlK4cSfIcf%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/dhcpcd Url: http://download.berlios.de/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-3.1.4.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/amule Url: http://download.berlios.de/amule/aMule-2.1.3.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/cdrtools Url: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/cdrtools-2.01.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/fetchmail Url: http://download2.berlios.de/fetchmail/fetchmail-6.3.8.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/maildrop Url: ftp://ftp.csx.cam.ac.uk/pub/software/programming/pcre/pcre-7.0.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/mplayer Url: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/MPlayer-1.0rc1.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/mplayer Url: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/patches/asmrules_fix_20061231.diff Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/mplayer Url: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/patches/cddb_fix_20070605.diff Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/mplayer Url: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/fonts/font-arial-iso-8859-1.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/ncftp Url: ftp://ftp.ncftp.com/ncftp/ncftp-3.2.0-src.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (19) Given file does not exist State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/ncurses-ruby Url: http://download.berlios.de/ncurses-ruby/ncurses-ruby-1.1.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/qt3 Url: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-x11-free-3.3.7.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/slim Url: http://download.berlios.de/slim/slim-1.3.0.tar.gz Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Fri Aug 17 08:25:00 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:25:00 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46c55b5c.wAva7HfZ9DHdpMlf%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libxml2 Url: ftp://xmlsoft.org/libxml2/libxml2-2.6.29.tar.gz Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'xmlsoft.org' State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libxml2-python Url: ftp://xmlsoft.org/libxml2/libxml2-2.6.29.tar.gz Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'xmlsoft.org' State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libxslt Url: ftp://xmlsoft.org/libxml2/libxslt-1.1.20.tar.gz Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'xmlsoft.org' State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/p5-xml-parser Url: http://cpan.develooper.com/modules/by-category/11_String_Lang_Text_Proc/XML/XML-Parser-2.34.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/wmclock Url: http://www.dockapps.org/download.php/id/328/wmclock-1.0.12.2.tar.gz Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'www.dockapps.org' State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Fri Aug 17 08:31:32 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:31:32 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46c55ce4.sKeEsn+MEK2vYIu2%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From jue at jue.li Fri Aug 17 17:26:29 2007 From: jue at jue.li (Juergen Daubert) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:26:29 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release Message-ID: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> Hello CRUX maintainers, our last CRUX release is nearly a half year ago, so I thought it might be a good idea to think about a new one. Moreover, there are new major releases of all parts of our standard toolchain. To initiate the whole thing I've created updated ports of those stuff, all of them available from my private httpup-repo [1] for now: - gcc 4.2.1 - glibc 2.6.1 with kernel headers 2.6.22 - binutils 2.18.50 To minimize the hassle you can use the bootstraped binaries from [2]. Most of the core-ports builds just fine, simple patches are needed for coreutils, gzip and perl, see [1], haven't checked any opt-port for now. Question is how to proceed, I think we have the options to make a update-only release within a short timeframe or put more new, fancy stuff (which one?) in it and, of course, do nothing. Please comment. best regards Juergen [1] http://jue.li/crux/ports/ [1] http://crux.nu/~jue/tmp/ -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue at jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux From tilman at crux.nu Fri Aug 17 17:38:35 2007 From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:38:35 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> Message-ID: <20070817173835.GA876@code-monkey.de> Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: Hi Juergen, > our last CRUX release is nearly a half year ago, so I thought it > might be a good idea to think about a new one. I had this on my list for a few weeks now, too. > Question is how to proceed, I think we have the options to make a > update-only release within a short timeframe or put more new, fancy > stuff (which one?) in it and, of course, do nothing. Please comment. Originally I had hoped to finally be able to include texinfo in the next release, but since that depends on pkgutils extensions I think it won't go in yet. So, a simple updated-toolchain-release sounds good to me. However, I'd like to include Xorg 7.3 in the next release. The planned release date for that is 2007-08-29 (which probably means it should be out sometime in September). Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sip at varlock.com Fri Aug 17 20:09:14 2007 From: sip at varlock.com (Simone Rota) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:09:14 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> Message-ID: <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 07:26:29PM +0200, Juergen Daubert wrote: > Hello CRUX maintainers, Hey, > our last CRUX release is nearly a half year ago, so I thought it > might be a good idea to think about a new one. > Moreover, there are new major releases of all parts of our standard > toolchain. [..] > Question is how to proceed, I think we have the options to make a > update-only release within a short timeframe or put more new, fancy > stuff (which one?) in it and, of course, do nothing. Please comment. Apart from the toolchain / kernel updates, I'd like to see some additional work for 2.4. Full UTF-8 support comes out of my mind (see our tracker); I lack some knowledge on this matter so I'm not sure if some config option is enough or rather we have to ensure all the ports supports UTF-8 where available. I also vote for xorg 7.3 (more in my reply to Tilman's post). Time permitting, I think merging with Matt's livecd would be great, maybe together with a simple remote install option. We can just leave this out if it turns out too time consuming, I prefer to put out a release sooner than later as you seem to support. I suggest we write in this thread what we'd like to add to next release, vote / discuss if needed and move the results to the wiki or better to the bug tracker: - UTF-8 X - Xorg 7.3 X - LiveCD X Finally, I think we'd benefit from setting an estimated release date / period, i.e. the beginning of october is my guess. Regards, Simone -- Simone Rota Bergamo, Italy - http://www.varlock.com From crux at crux.nu Sat Aug 18 08:31:29 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:31:29 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46c6ae61.c1VTxvsuW1fEWjPW%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From tilman at crux.nu Sat Aug 18 09:18:05 2007 From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:18:05 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> Message-ID: <20070818091804.GA957@code-monkey.de> Simone Rota [2007-08-17 22:09]: > Full UTF-8 support comes out of my mind (see our tracker); I lack some > knowledge on this matter so I'm not sure if some config option is enough > or rather we have to ensure all the ports supports UTF-8 where available. This isn't as straight forward as I had thought: If you set LESSCHARSET to UTF-8 so it can properly display your files, some man pages will look strange (e.g. the list bullets in prt-get(8)). Jesse pointed me to the fix to that. It's a one-line fix in /etc/man.conf: -NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tlatin1 -mandoc -c +NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -mandoc -c Note that this is the point where you definitely need a UTF-8 capable font, otherwise (again), man pages will look strange in a few places. ... but that doesn't seem to be a guarantee still, since gcc(1) has issues even when displayed with Bitstream Vera or Terminus (which should work I think!) I'll look into it further. > Time permitting, I think merging with Matt's livecd would be great, > maybe together with a simple remote install option. We can just leave this > out if it turns out too time consuming, I prefer to put out a release > sooner than later as you seem to support. Agreed. Matt has asked for testing of his netinstall ISO for a few times on IRC, but I still didn't give it a shot. Matt, do you want to publish the URLs here so we can get a wider audience to test it? :D > I suggest we write in this thread what we'd like to add to next release, > vote / discuss if needed and move the results to the wiki or better to the > bug tracker: > > - UTF-8 X > - Xorg 7.3 X > - LiveCD X > Finally, I think we'd benefit from setting an estimated release > date / period, i.e. the beginning of october is my guess. Sounds good to me. - UTF-8 X (level of support might vary) - Xorg 7.3 X - LiveCD X - Netinstall X (if it can be ready by release time) Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tim_biermann at web.de Sat Aug 18 10:18:20 2007 From: tim_biermann at web.de (Tim Biermann) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:18:20 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> Message-ID: <20070818121820.52613ba3@localhost> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:26:29 +0200 Juergen Daubert wrote: > - glibc 2.6.1 with kernel headers 2.6.22 Hi, I'd suggest to wait for Kernel 2.6.23. I can only speak for myself right now but I had problems with 2.6.22 when I tried it, and I use 2.6.23-rc2 right now which works pretty fine. Everything else sounds pretty good for me :) Cheers, Tim From viper at hometux.de Sat Aug 18 10:41:20 2007 From: viper at hometux.de (Simon =?iso-8859-1?Q?Glo=DFner?=) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:41:20 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> Message-ID: <20070818104120.GA1156@viper.lan> On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 10:09:14PM +0200, Simone Rota wrote: > On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 07:26:29PM +0200, Juergen Daubert wrote: > > our last CRUX release is nearly a half year ago, so I thought it > > might be a good idea to think about a new one. > > Moreover, there are new major releases of all parts of our standard > > toolchain. Yes, that's indeed a good idea. Toolchain and kernel updates sounds good to me. > Full UTF-8 support comes out of my mind (see our tracker); I lack some > knowledge on this matter so I'm not sure if some config option is enough > or rather we have to ensure all the ports supports UTF-8 where available. But I am not sure on this point. I've tried to switch to UTF-8 on my personal system some time ago and I had some problems, for example, applications which don't support UTF-8. In the end I've decided to stay with the old charset. It would be nice to get some experiences from people who have successfully switched to UTF-8 yet. Who of you have done this already? Did you have problems? > I also vote for xorg 7.3 (more in my reply to Tilman's post). I vote for that, too. > Finally, I think we'd benefit from setting an estimated release > date / period, i.e. the beginning of october is my guess. That's a really good idea, especially if you look at debian and it's sarge release. :-) Regards Simon From crux at crux.nu Sun Aug 19 08:24:19 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:24:19 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46c7fe33.FrGjuz/HejvMw1yt%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/tcsh Url: ftp://ftp.astron.com/pub/tcsh/tcsh-6.15.00.tar.gz Reason: curl: (8) This doesn't seem like a nice ftp-server response State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libesmtp Url: http://www.stafford.uklinux.net/libesmtp/libesmtp-1.0.4.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libpng Url: ftp://ftp.simplesystems.org/pub/libpng/png/src/libpng-1.2.18.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (19) Given file does not exist State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/netpbm Url: http://aon.iki.fi/files/netpbm/netpbm-10.35.29.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Sun Aug 19 08:31:26 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:31:26 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46c7ffde.SvgECcHdnLo5dJDt%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: 72,74d71 < WARN opt/openbox .............. junk file found: usr/share/doc/openbox/AUTHORS < WARN opt/openbox .............. junk file found: usr/share/doc/openbox/COPYING < WARN opt/openbox .............. junk file found: usr/share/doc/openbox/README Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Mon Aug 20 08:26:46 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:26:46 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46c95046.149Nof5Md8HbGpeN%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/ed Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/ed/ed-0.8.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/libstdc++-compat Url: http://www.fukt.bsnet.se/~per/crux/files/libstdc++/libstdc++-2-libc6.1-1-2.9.0.so Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/libstdc++-compat Url: http://www.fukt.bsnet.se/~per/crux/files/libstdc++/libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/libstdc++-compat Url: http://www.fukt.bsnet.se/~per/crux/files/libstdc++/libstdc++.so.5.0.6 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/linux-identd Url: http://www.fukt.bsnet.se/~per/identd/linux-identd-1.3.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/qt3 Url: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-x11-free-3.3.7.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Mon Aug 20 08:31:28 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:31:28 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46c95160.AhVq/pgRB75nchDF%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From jue at jue.li Mon Aug 20 14:07:08 2007 From: jue at jue.li (Juergen Daubert) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:07:08 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> Message-ID: <20070820140708.GA12563@jue.netz> On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 10:09:14PM +0200, Simone Rota wrote: [...l] > Apart from the toolchain / kernel updates, I'd like to see some > additional work for 2.4. > > - UTF-8 X vote: 0 That's ok for me, but I don't see any improvement making it the default. Most people don't need it, and there are still some apps which are not UTF-8 ready, e.g. aterm or mc. Adding a wiki page how to switch to UTF-8 might be more helpful. And, of course, applications should be build with wide-charcater support if possible. > - Xorg 7.3 X vote: +1 > - LiveCD X vote: +1 > Finally, I think we'd benefit from setting an estimated release > date / period, i.e. the beginning of october is my guess. ok regards Juergen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue at jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux From jaeger at morpheus.net Mon Aug 20 14:24:38 2007 From: jaeger at morpheus.net (Matt Housh) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:24:38 -0500 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070818091804.GA957@code-monkey.de> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> <20070818091804.GA957@code-monkey.de> Message-ID: <46C9A426.4030706@morpheus.net> Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: [...] > Matt, do you want to publish the URLs here so we can get a wider > audience to test it? :D [...] Certainly. The machine with which I build the updated ISOs is currently powered off at home and I'm at work, so I'll upload this evening. If I were to bootstrap on another machine it would take as long as it would for me to wait out the work day. :) Anyway, I'll reply and post the link here when that's done. The network install is more or less "ready to go", I've been using it in some form or other since CRUX 2.1. By that I mean it works great for me but I certainly haven't tested every possible scenario. It could benefit from a new feature or two like proxy support (which it does technically support because it simply uses wget; setting the appropriate env vars works but a prompt in net-setup would look nicer) or manual specification of the kernel version to download, etc. --- As for the rest of this thread, I agree with everything said so far in terms of things that would be nice to see for 2.4, with the small exception that I have no opinion on the UTF-8 issue due to lack of exposure/education. If it's something we need, great. If not, a wiki howto article or the like would be perfect. Matt From tilman at crux.nu Mon Aug 20 19:00:13 2007 From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:00:13 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> Message-ID: <20070820190002.GA13195@code-monkey.de> Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: > our last CRUX release is nearly a half year ago, so I thought it > might be a good idea to think about a new one. Somewhat related: I'd like to build xorg/xorg-server without Xprint support starting with the next CRUX release. Reasons: it sucks, virtually nobody uses it, it's buggy and broken. For the majority of CRUX users this shouldn't be a problem, for the few (insane) others, I might create a port that enables it. Should you have objections to this, please let me know. Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From crux at crux.nu Tue Aug 21 08:28:21 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:28:21 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46caa225.x9Wp9yL+3f6CLJ8F%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/binutils Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/binutils/binutils-2.17.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/bison Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bison/bison-2.3.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/lyx Url: ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/lyx-1.4.4.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/psutils Url: ftp://ftp.enst.fr/pub/unix/a2ps/psutils-1.17.tar.gz Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/sharutils Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/sharutils/REL-4.7/sharutils-4.7.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/webfs Url: http://dl.bytesex.org/releases/webfs/webfs-1.21.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Tue Aug 21 08:31:26 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:31:26 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46caa2de.qhUzLccmAh7HorFG%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From clemens.koller at anagramm.de Tue Aug 21 09:38:42 2007 From: clemens.koller at anagramm.de (Clemens Koller) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:38:42 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070820190002.GA13195@code-monkey.de> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070820190002.GA13195@code-monkey.de> Message-ID: <46CAB2A2.4010900@anagramm.de> Tilman Sauerbeck schrieb: > Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: >> our last CRUX release is nearly a half year ago, so I thought it >> might be a good idea to think about a new one. > > Somewhat related: > I'd like to build xorg/xorg-server without Xprint support starting with > the next CRUX release. > > Reasons: it sucks, virtually nobody uses it, it's buggy and broken. ACK! > For the majority of CRUX users this shouldn't be a problem, for the few > (insane) others, I might create a port that enables it. I'd prefer a really minimal X installation (small "dependency footprint") and don't mind recompiling stuff to get dependencies resolved afterwards. Regards, -- Clemens Koller __________________________________ R&D Imaging Devices Anagramm GmbH Rupert-Mayer-Stra?e 45/1 Linhof Werksgel?nde D-81379 M?nchen Tel.089-741518-50 Fax 089-741518-19 http://www.anagramm-technology.com From crux at crux.nu Wed Aug 22 08:31:26 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:31:26 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46cbf45e.ZRoOUACq6aCRh3zo%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: 110a111 > FATAL opt/samba ................ world writable directory found: var/spool/samba/ Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Wed Aug 22 08:53:07 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:53:07 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46cbf973.Kn2WWGVXxv8+Csgf%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/autoconf Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/autoconf/autoconf-2.61.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/gawk Url: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gawk/gawk-3.1.5.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/gdbm Url: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gdbm/gdbm-1.8.3.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/iputils Url: ftp://ftp.inr.ac.ru/ip-routing/iputils-ss021109-try.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/m4 Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/m4/m4-1.4.10.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/make Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/make/make-3.81.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/enscript Url: http://www.iki.fi/mtr/genscript/enscript-1.6.4.tar.gz Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'www.iki.fi' State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/gdb Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gdb/gdb-6.6.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/grub Url: ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/grub-0.97.tar.gz Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libgmp Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gmp/gmp-4.2.1.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libjpeg Url: ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/jpeg/jpegsrc.v6b.tar.gz Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libpth Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/pth/pth-2.0.7.tar.gz Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/netpbm Url: http://aon.iki.fi/files/netpbm/netpbm-10.35.29.tar.gz Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'aon.iki.fi' State: Changed reason Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From treachster at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 15:39:46 2007 From: treachster at gmail.com (treach) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:39:46 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070820140708.GA12563@jue.netz> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> <20070820140708.GA12563@jue.netz> Message-ID: <20070822153946.GA2258@thing.bredbandsbolaget.se> On 16:07 Mon 20 Aug?, Juergen Daubert wrote: > On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 10:09:14PM +0200, Simone Rota wrote: > > [...l] > > > Apart from the toolchain / kernel updates, I'd like to see some > > additional work for 2.4. > > > > > - UTF-8 X > vote: 0 > > That's ok for me, but I don't see any improvement making it the default. > Most people don't need it, and there are still some apps which are not > UTF-8 ready, e.g. aterm or mc. Adding a wiki page how to switch to UTF-8 > might be more helpful. And, of course, applications should be build with > wide-charcater support if possible. > > > - Xorg 7.3 X > vote: +1 > > > - LiveCD X > vote: +1 > > > Finally, I think we'd benefit from setting an estimated release > > date / period, i.e. the beginning of october is my guess. > ok > > > regards > Juergen > #include I'd like to see the addition/re-addition of some stuff in 2.4 that I feel would be very useful for various people. In no particular order: - gnuparted; for those who can't part with other, inferior operating systems, also handy in rescue situations. - vwdial; Why did this get dropped of the iso? Apparently we still have some users relying on dial-up, or at least we had - until they tried upgrading to 2.3. - libdevmapper Another, more debatable point is the use of a more standard adherent shell as the default, with the removal of bashisms from the rc scripts as an addon. I've used dash quite successfully in the past for this, which is also used by debian/*buntu. It's a lot faster and smaller than bash, however, if used as /bin/sh it will trigger misbehaviour from broken software that assumes /bin/sh == /bin/bash. So far I've only heard of cdega having this issue though - I've come across nothing that complained so far myself (fwiw). cheers //treach -- Don't take life too seriously; you'll never get out of it alive. - Elbert Hubbard From tilman at crux.nu Wed Aug 22 16:05:46 2007 From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:05:46 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070822153946.GA2258@thing.bredbandsbolaget.se> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> <20070820140708.GA12563@jue.netz> <20070822153946.GA2258@thing.bredbandsbolaget.se> Message-ID: <20070822160545.GA839@code-monkey.de> treach [2007-08-22 17:39]: > Another, more debatable point is the use of a more standard adherent > shell as the default, with the removal of bashisms from the rc scripts > as an addon. > > I've used dash quite successfully in the past for this, which is also > used by debian/*buntu. It's a lot faster and smaller than bash, however, > if used as /bin/sh it will trigger misbehaviour from broken software > that assumes /bin/sh == /bin/bash. So far I've only heard of cdega > having this issue though - I've come across nothing that complained so > far myself (fwiw). +1, I like the idea of removing bashisms from the RC scripts. Any objections? :p However, I'm not sure whether it's a good idea to start doing a /bin/sh switch now, ie shortly before release preparations begin. However, we could: * make the scripts sh compatible now * switch /bin/sh over to eg dash (tbh I'm not sure what other alternative smallish shells exist) early *after* the next release and get people to test it. I'm afraid that there might be other applications that expect bash in /bin/sh. How does this sound? Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cbou at mail.ru Wed Aug 22 18:04:51 2007 From: cbou at mail.ru (Anton Vorontsov) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:04:51 +0400 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070822153946.GA2258@thing.bredbandsbolaget.se> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> <20070820140708.GA12563@jue.netz> <20070822153946.GA2258@thing.bredbandsbolaget.se> Message-ID: <20070822180451.GA9120@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 05:39:46PM +0200, treach wrote: > On 16:07 Mon 20 Aug?, Juergen Daubert wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 10:09:14PM +0200, Simone Rota wrote: > > > > [...l] > > > > > Apart from the toolchain / kernel updates, I'd like to see some > > > additional work for 2.4. > > > > > > > > - UTF-8 X > > vote: 0 > > > > That's ok for me, but I don't see any improvement making it the default. > > Most people don't need it, and there are still some apps which are not > > UTF-8 ready, e.g. aterm or mc. Adding a wiki page how to switch to UTF-8 > > might be more helpful. And, of course, applications should be build with > > wide-charcater support if possible. > > > > > - Xorg 7.3 X > > vote: +1 > > > > > - LiveCD X > > vote: +1 > > > > > Finally, I think we'd benefit from setting an estimated release > > > date / period, i.e. the beginning of october is my guess. > > ok > > > > > > regards > > Juergen > > > #include > > I'd like to see the addition/re-addition of some stuff in 2.4 that I > feel would be very useful for various people. > > In no particular order: > > - gnuparted; for those who can't part with other, inferior operating > systems, also handy in rescue situations. > > - vwdial; Why did this get dropped of the iso? Apparently we still have > some users relying on dial-up, or at least we had - until they tried > upgrading to 2.3. Mm.. Personally, I sometimes use dial-up (pppd), but never used vwdial. vwdial isn't mandatory for dial-uping. > - libdevmapper > > Another, more debatable point is the use of a more standard adherent > shell as the default That means, if I'm bash user (and I guess most users use bash), starting with 2.x I'll have to keep two shells instead of just one. One for /bin/sh and another for interactive shell. > with the removal of bashisms from the rc scripts > as an addon. Nice. > I've used dash quite successfully in the past for this, which is also > used by debian/*buntu. As an interactive shell? > It's a lot faster and smaller than bash, however, How faster is it in real life? Did you measure? Can you post boot times dash vs. bash? Or some another real life testcase. Good luck, -- Anton Vorontsov email: cbou at mail.ru backup email: ya-cbou at yandex.ru irc://irc.freenode.net/bd2 From cbou at mail.ru Wed Aug 22 18:13:02 2007 From: cbou at mail.ru (Anton Vorontsov) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:13:02 +0400 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070822180451.GA9120@localhost.localdomain> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> <20070820140708.GA12563@jue.netz> <20070822153946.GA2258@thing.bredbandsbolaget.se> <20070822180451.GA9120@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20070822181302.GA9287@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 10:04:51PM +0400, Anton Vorontsov wrote: [...] > > Another, more debatable point is the use of a more standard adherent > > shell as the default > > That means, if I'm bash user (and I guess most users use bash), starting > with 2.x I'll have to keep two shells instead of just one. One for /bin/sh > and another for interactive shell. Oh, and for e.g. zsh users, that would mean that they have to keep _three_ shells. ;-) /bin/sh for posix-compliant scripts, /bin/bash for many-many scripts using bashism, and /bin/zsh for interactive shell. -- Anton Vorontsov email: cbou at mail.ru backup email: ya-cbou at yandex.ru irc://irc.freenode.net/bd2 From jue at jue.li Thu Aug 23 07:44:47 2007 From: jue at jue.li (Juergen Daubert) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:44:47 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070822153946.GA2258@thing.bredbandsbolaget.se> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> <20070820140708.GA12563@jue.netz> <20070822153946.GA2258@thing.bredbandsbolaget.se> Message-ID: <20070823074447.GA8800@jue.netz> On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 05:39:46PM +0200, treach wrote: > - vwdial; Why did this get dropped of the iso? Apparently we still have > some users relying on dial-up, or at least we had - until they tried > upgrading to 2.3. wvdial and rp-pppoe were removed by mistake from the 2.3 iso and will be readded with 2.4 Greetings Juergen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue at jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux From crux at crux.nu Thu Aug 23 08:23:54 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:23:54 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46cd441a.8sUYIwt515ZUNKTu%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libpng Url: ftp://ftp.simplesystems.org/pub/libpng/png/src/libpng-1.2.19.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/netpbm Url: http://aon.iki.fi/files/netpbm/netpbm-10.35.29.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: Changed reason Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/qt3 Url: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-x11-free-3.3.7.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (56) FTP response reading failed State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Thu Aug 23 08:31:25 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:31:25 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46cd45dd.qCndNyr546oU29Df%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From jue at jue.li Thu Aug 23 09:00:30 2007 From: jue at jue.li (Juergen Daubert) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:00:30 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070822160545.GA839@code-monkey.de> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070817200914.GA10604@sip> <20070820140708.GA12563@jue.netz> <20070822153946.GA2258@thing.bredbandsbolaget.se> <20070822160545.GA839@code-monkey.de> Message-ID: <20070823090030.GB8800@jue.netz> On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 06:05:46PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > treach [2007-08-22 17:39]: > > Another, more debatable point is the use of a more standard adherent > > shell as the default, with the removal of bashisms from the rc scripts > > as an addon. > > > > I've used dash quite successfully in the past for this, which is also > > used by debian/*buntu. It's a lot faster and smaller than bash, however, > > if used as /bin/sh it will trigger misbehaviour from broken software > > that assumes /bin/sh == /bin/bash. So far I've only heard of cdega > > having this issue though - I've come across nothing that complained so > > far myself (fwiw). > > +1, I like the idea of removing bashisms from the RC scripts. > Any objections? :p No, as long as our scripts works with bash after that :-) > However, I'm not sure whether it's a good idea to start doing a > /bin/sh switch now, ie shortly before release preparations begin. > > However, we could: > * make the scripts sh compatible now > * switch /bin/sh over to eg dash (tbh I'm not sure what other > alternative smallish shells exist) early *after* the next release and > get people to test it. I'm afraid that there might be other > applications that expect bash in /bin/sh. I don't see any real benefit in switching /bin/sh to another shell, but potential problems, so my vote is a -1 here. regards Juergen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue at jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux From crux at crux.nu Fri Aug 24 08:28:32 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:28:32 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46ce96b0.h7QrlV1TzlnJiQzJ%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/ncftp Url: ftp://ftp.ncftp.com/ncftp/ncftp-3.2.0-src.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (19) Given file does not exist State: Reminder Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Fri Aug 24 08:31:25 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:31:25 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46ce975d.yanKb3djx3XJMhkm%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Sat Aug 25 08:27:18 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:27:18 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46cfe7e6.1jB6JPTjAB8yRjPI%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/mktemp Url: ftp://ftp.mktemp.org/pub/mktemp/mktemp-1.5.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Sat Aug 25 08:31:28 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:31:28 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46cfe8e0.DDSF2QWi8QVlu3t1%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Sun Aug 26 08:24:42 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:24:42 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46d138ca.rj35WE0hWgtepWzI%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/tcsh Url: ftp://ftp.astron.com/pub/tcsh/tcsh-6.15.00.tar.gz Reason: curl: (8) This doesn't seem like a nice ftp-server response State: Reminder Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Sun Aug 26 08:31:26 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:31:26 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46d13a5e.mIj/2eAWBz71m1NE%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Mon Aug 27 08:31:26 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:31:26 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46d28bde.P5zPO8dCPAdVmtvM%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From jue at jue.li Mon Aug 27 11:57:22 2007 From: jue at jue.li (Juergen Daubert) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:57:22 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> Message-ID: <20070827115721.GA29036@jue.netz> On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 07:26:29PM +0200, Juergen Daubert wrote: > Hello CRUX maintainers, Hello again, > our last CRUX release is nearly a half year ago, so I thought it > might be a good idea to think about a new one. > Moreover, there are new major releases of all parts of our standard > toolchain. > > To initiate the whole thing I've created updated ports of those > stuff, all of them available from my private httpup-repo [1] for > now: > > - gcc 4.2.1 > - glibc 2.6.1 with kernel headers 2.6.22 > - binutils 2.18.50 By mistake I took a cvs-snapshot version of binutils, not what we want for our new release? Apologize for that. The official release is still 2.17, but there is a newer one available at kernel.org [3], it's a 2.17+cvs and additional patches maintained by some RedHat people. Unfortunately they have removed all docs, generated with texinfo, from the tarball, so texinfo is a build-time dependency. A patch might be possible, but not a trivial one, if we want the man-pages. And, more important, I got a configure error from glibc with that version of binutils. I'd tend to stick with the official 2.17, updated binaries are available at [2]. Opinions ? best regards Juergen [2] http://crux.nu/~jue/tmp/ [3] http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2007-08/msg00017.html -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue at jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux From clemens.koller at anagramm.de Mon Aug 27 15:56:37 2007 From: clemens.koller at anagramm.de (Clemens Koller) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:56:37 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070827115721.GA29036@jue.netz> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070827115721.GA29036@jue.netz> Message-ID: <46D2F435.9000407@anagramm.de> Hello, Juergen! Juergen Daubert schrieb: > On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 07:26:29PM +0200, Juergen Daubert wrote: >> Hello CRUX maintainers, > > Hello again, > >> our last CRUX release is nearly a half year ago, so I thought it >> might be a good idea to think about a new one. >> Moreover, there are new major releases of all parts of our standard >> toolchain. >> >> To initiate the whole thing I've created updated ports of those >> stuff, all of them available from my private httpup-repo [1] for >> now: >> >> - gcc 4.2.1 >> - glibc 2.6.1 with kernel headers 2.6.22 > >> - binutils 2.18.50 > > By mistake I took a cvs-snapshot version of binutils, not what we > want for our new release? Apologize for that. > [...] > Opinions ? > Binutils 2.18 will be out very soon (like today, 27th August): http://www.cygwin.com/ml/binutils/2007-08/msg00085.html Regards, -- Clemens Koller __________________________________ R&D Imaging Devices Anagramm GmbH Rupert-Mayer-Stra?e 45/1 Linhof Werksgel?nde D-81379 M?nchen Tel.089-741518-50 Fax 089-741518-19 http://www.anagramm-technology.com From crux at crux.nu Tue Aug 28 08:22:19 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:22:19 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46d3db3b.wBbRKcj5MKYO2ouh%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/bison Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bison/bison-2.3.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/ed Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/ed/ed-0.8.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Tue Aug 28 08:31:26 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:31:26 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46d3dd5e.TVjRbCLX/5V4zKf9%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From tilman at crux.nu Tue Aug 28 18:18:29 2007 From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:18:29 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> Message-ID: <20070828181828.GA11315@code-monkey.de> Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: > - gcc 4.2.1 I'm not sure on this one. The list of "serious regression" bugs for 4.2.1 contains stuff like http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32544 which makes me wonder how stable gcc 4.2.1 really is :/ Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From clemens.koller at anagramm.de Tue Aug 28 22:17:16 2007 From: clemens.koller at anagramm.de (Clemens Koller) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:17:16 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070828181828.GA11315@code-monkey.de> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070828181828.GA11315@code-monkey.de> Message-ID: <46D49EEC.5090106@anagramm.de> Tilman Sauerbeck schrieb: > Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: >> - gcc 4.2.1 > > I'm not sure on this one. The list of "serious regression" bugs for > 4.2.1 contains stuff like > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32544 > which makes me wonder how stable gcc 4.2.1 really is :/ I'm using gcc-4.2.1 right now and didn't run into any severe problems. There was some discussion that gcc-4.2.1 will become gcc-4.3.3 or get some other strange number due to the GPLv3 relicensing. http://gcc.gnu.org/develop.html#timeline Regards, -- Clemens Koller _______________________________ R&D Imaging Devices Anagramm GmbH Rupert-Mayer-Str. 45/1 81379 Muenchen Germany http://www.anagramm-technology.com Phone: +49-89-741518-50 Fax: +49-89-741518-19 From crux at crux.nu Wed Aug 29 08:31:30 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:31:30 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46d52ee2.2nq/vo9vYPMlsmBM%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Wed Aug 29 08:55:01 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:55:01 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46d53465.tGwIX/GtBVV19LZS%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/autoconf Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/autoconf/autoconf-2.61.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/binutils Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/binutils/binutils-2.17.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/aspell Url: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/aspell/aspell-0.60.5.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/cmus Url: http://onion.dynserv.net/~timo/files/cmus-2.2.0.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/emacs Url: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/emacs-22.1.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/guile Url: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guile/guile-1.8.1.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libgmp Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gmp/gmp-4.2.1.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libjpeg Url: ftp://ftp.uu.net/graphics/jpeg/jpegsrc.v6b.tar.gz Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libpth Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/pth/pth-2.0.7.tar.gz Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/psutils Url: ftp://ftp.enst.fr/pub/unix/a2ps/psutils-1.17.tar.gz Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/sharutils Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/sharutils/REL-4.7/sharutils-4.7.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From alan+crux at mizrahi.com.ve Wed Aug 29 12:31:32 2007 From: alan+crux at mizrahi.com.ve (Alan Mizrahi) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:31:32 -0400 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070822153946.GA2258@thing.bredbandsbolaget.se> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070820140708.GA12563@jue.netz> <20070822153946.GA2258@thing.bredbandsbolaget.se> Message-ID: <200708290831.38933.alan+crux@mizrahi.com.ve> El Mi? 22 Ago 2007, treach escribi?: [...] > Another, more debatable point is the use of a more standard adherent > shell as the default, with the removal of bashisms from the rc scripts > as an addon. > > I've used dash quite successfully in the past for this, which is also > used by debian/*buntu. It's a lot faster and smaller than bash, however, > if used as /bin/sh it will trigger misbehaviour from broken software > that assumes /bin/sh == /bin/bash. So far I've only heard of cdega > having this issue though - I've come across nothing that complained so > far myself (fwiw). My vote is on removing bashisms from rc scripts, and to use #!/bin/bash in scripts that REQUIRE bash (eg: ldd). That way, if the user wants to replace /bin/sh with something else than bash, it will work right away. I couldn't care less if the default is to make /bin/sh = /bin/bash or any other shell that superseeds sh, after all, this is CRUX and people will change it to whatever they like best. I in particular change it to mksh. -- Alan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From tilman at crux.nu Wed Aug 29 16:14:33 2007 From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:14:33 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> Message-ID: <20070829161432.GA5362@code-monkey.de> Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: > To initiate the whole thing I've created updated ports of those > stuff, all of them available from my private httpup-repo [1] for > now: > > - gcc 4.2.1 > - glibc 2.6.1 with kernel headers 2.6.22 > - binutils 2.18.50 I've branched core.git off for 2.4: http://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=ports/core.git;a=shortlog;h=2.4 so far it only has the new glibc. Juergen, do you mind bumping binutils, gzip and perl in there? Otherwise I'll do it. Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tilman at crux.nu Wed Aug 29 16:24:17 2007 From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:24:17 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <46D49EEC.5090106@anagramm.de> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070828181828.GA11315@code-monkey.de> <46D49EEC.5090106@anagramm.de> Message-ID: <20070829162417.GB5362@code-monkey.de> Clemens Koller [2007-08-29 00:17]: > Tilman Sauerbeck schrieb: > > Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: > >> - gcc 4.2.1 > > > > I'm not sure on this one. The list of "serious regression" bugs for > > 4.2.1 contains stuff like > > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=32544 > > which makes me wonder how stable gcc 4.2.1 really is :/ > > I'm using gcc-4.2.1 right now and didn't run into any severe problems. > > There was some discussion that gcc-4.2.1 will become gcc-4.3.3 or > get some other strange number due to the GPLv3 relicensing. Ah, I guess you meant gcc-4.2.2 and not 4.2.1, right? http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2007-07/msg00389.html Their roadmap is a bit confusing atm, I have no clue whether waiting for 4.3.3 might be an option (though I didn't look too hard yet :P). Thanks for the heads-up on the binutils release, btw. Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jue at jue.li Wed Aug 29 17:31:48 2007 From: jue at jue.li (Juergen Daubert) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:31:48 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <20070829161432.GA5362@code-monkey.de> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070829161432.GA5362@code-monkey.de> Message-ID: <20070829173148.GA22130@jue.netz> On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 06:14:33PM +0200, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > Juergen Daubert [2007-08-17 19:26]: > > To initiate the whole thing I've created updated ports of those > > stuff, all of them available from my private httpup-repo [1] for > > now: > > > > - gcc 4.2.1 > > - glibc 2.6.1 with kernel headers 2.6.22 > > - binutils 2.18.50 > > I've branched core.git off for 2.4: > http://crux.nu/gitweb/?p=ports/core.git;a=shortlog;h=2.4 Great, thanks Tilman. > so far it only has the new glibc. > > Juergen, do you mind bumping binutils, gzip and perl in there? Will do it tomorrow morning. Greetings Juergen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue at jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux From jue at jue.li Wed Aug 29 18:04:52 2007 From: jue at jue.li (Juergen Daubert) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:04:52 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] New CRUX release In-Reply-To: <46D2F435.9000407@anagramm.de> References: <20070817172629.GA3181@jue.netz> <20070827115721.GA29036@jue.netz> <46D2F435.9000407@anagramm.de> Message-ID: <20070829180452.GC22130@jue.netz> On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 05:56:37PM +0200, Clemens Koller wrote: > Hello, Juergen! Hi Clemens, > > Juergen Daubert schrieb: >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 07:26:29PM +0200, Juergen Daubert wrote: >>> Hello CRUX maintainers, >> Hello again, >>> our last CRUX release is nearly a half year ago, so I thought it >>> might be a good idea to think about a new one. >>> Moreover, there are new major releases of all parts of our standard >>> toolchain. >>> >>> To initiate the whole thing I've created updated ports of those stuff, >>> all of them available from my private httpup-repo [1] for >>> now: >>> >>> - gcc 4.2.1 >>> - glibc 2.6.1 with kernel headers 2.6.22 >>> - binutils 2.18.50 >> By mistake I took a cvs-snapshot version of binutils, not what we want for >> our new release? Apologize for that. > > [...] >> Opinions ? > > Binutils 2.18 will be out very soon (like today, 27th August): > http://www.cygwin.com/ml/binutils/2007-08/msg00085.html many thanks for the hint! I suppose it's out of question that we will use binutils 2.18 now, I've uploaded new bootstrapped binaries of binutils, gcc and glibc to http://crux.nu/~jue/tmp/ Greetings Juergen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue at jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux From crux at crux.nu Thu Aug 30 08:31:26 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:31:26 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46d6805e.BFIHOnSh55YOVgfR%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log From crux at crux.nu Thu Aug 30 08:32:26 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:32:26 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46d6809a.+dXa8nqMgTtJ51mr%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/iputils Url: ftp://ftp.inr.ac.ru/ip-routing/iputils-ss021109-try.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 530 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/m4 Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/m4/m4-1.4.10.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/core/make Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/make/make-3.81.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/gdb Url: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gdb/gdb-6.6.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/grub Url: ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/grub-0.97.tar.gz Reason: curl: (67) Access denied: 500 State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/libpcap Url: http://www.tcpdump.org/release/libpcap-0.9.7.tar.gz Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/lyx Url: ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/lyx-1.4.4.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: Reminder Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/sitecopy Url: http://www.lyra.org/sitecopy/sitecopy-0.16.3.tar.gz Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/tcpdump Url: http://www.tcpdump.org/release/tcpdump-3.9.7.tar.gz Reason: curl: (52) Empty reply from server State: New Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/x11-fonts-corefonts Url: http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/downloads/cabextract-1.1.tar.gz Reason: curl: (7) couldn't connect to host State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Fri Aug 31 08:26:15 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:26:15 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] Potentially broken source downloads Message-ID: <46d7d0a7.X7IwzY56OUzP7uIn%crux@crux.nu> Port: /home/crux/git-to-rsync-working-copy/crux-2.3/opt/gnutls Url: ftp://ftp.gnutls.org/pub/gnutls/gnutls-1.6.2.tar.bz2 Reason: curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'ftp.gnutls.org' State: New Full report: http://crux.nu/files/check_urls.html From crux at crux.nu Fri Aug 31 08:31:26 2007 From: crux at crux.nu (crux at crux.nu) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:31:26 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] prtverify daily results Message-ID: <46d7d1de.1vfwEnNu+aiou4zX%crux@crux.nu> Differences since last check: (no differences) Full report: http://crux.nu/files/prtverify.log