From jue at jue.li Sat Nov 1 08:13:35 2008 From: jue at jue.li (Juergen Daubert) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 09:13:35 +0100 Subject: [crux-devel] [RFC] pkgmk and wget configuration In-Reply-To: <20081031234423.03854acb@akira.digitilocal> References: <20081031102714.GA28022@jue.netz> <20081031105025.GA24831@jue.netz> <20081031234423.03854acb@akira.digitilocal> Message-ID: <20081101081335.GA28097@jue.netz> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:44:23PM +1100, Lucas Hazel wrote: [...] > IIRC this has been briefly discussed in IRC, the general consensus was > that WGET_ARGS in pkgmk.conf was probably the best way to do it. Thanks, Lucas, missed that discussion. I've attached a proposed patch to ticket #347 [1]. Greetings Juergen [1] http://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=347 -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue at jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux From jue at jue.li Sat Nov 1 08:26:47 2008 From: jue at jue.li (Juergen Daubert) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 09:26:47 +0100 Subject: [crux-devel] CRUX 2.5: replace slocate by mlocate In-Reply-To: <20081028175112.GB1207@code-monkey.de> References: <20081028115013.GA9076@jue.netz> <20081028175112.GB1207@code-monkey.de> Message-ID: <20081101082647.GA28135@jue.netz> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 06:51:27PM +0100, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > Juergen Daubert [2008-10-28 12:50]: > > [...] > > if you are using the current version of pkgmk you have to download > > the source-file by hand, because of a failed certificate check, > > pkgmk in git already has a fix for that [4]. A new pkgutils release > > for 2.5 would be nice. > > Oops, I forgot that there have been a few fixes piling up in > pkgutils.git :) > I'll take care of releasing them. > > Is anyone else working on patches for pkgutils for 2.5 still? If so, > please speak up soon :p I've attached patches to tickets #336 and #347. Please consider inclusion. Greetings Juergen http://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=336 http://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=347 -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue at jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux From tilman at crux.nu Sat Nov 1 17:27:02 2008 From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:27:02 +0100 Subject: [crux-devel] CRUX 2.5: replace slocate by mlocate In-Reply-To: <20081101082647.GA28135@jue.netz> References: <20081028115013.GA9076@jue.netz> <20081028175112.GB1207@code-monkey.de> <20081101082647.GA28135@jue.netz> Message-ID: <20081101172702.GA1154@code-monkey.de> Juergen Daubert [2008-11-01 09:26]: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 06:51:27PM +0100, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > > Juergen Daubert [2008-10-28 12:50]: > > > [...] > > > if you are using the current version of pkgmk you have to download > > > the source-file by hand, because of a failed certificate check, > > > pkgmk in git already has a fix for that [4]. A new pkgutils release > > > for 2.5 would be nice. > > > > Oops, I forgot that there have been a few fixes piling up in > > pkgutils.git :) > > I'll take care of releasing them. > > > > Is anyone else working on patches for pkgutils for 2.5 still? If so, > > please speak up soon :p > > I've attached patches to tickets #336 and #347. Please consider > inclusion. > > [...] > http://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=336 > http://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=347 I pushed both of these. Any more? Otherwise I'll release a tarball on monday or tuesday :) Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It would be also possible to unpack the squashfs-tools package >> when it's included on the CD but that would need an additional step. >> >>> In both cases it dosn't solve your problem IMO, because you either >>> need unsuashfs to access the iso, or a running crux system to install >>> the package. Or do I miss something? >> Propably. :-) > > Now I got it. Currently all executable binaries are packed in > crux.squashfs and therefore not available via loop-mount of the iso. > But it shouldn't be a problem to put the 50k unsquashfs somewhere > else on the iso :) Maybe a new subdir /bin or something similar. Yes, that sounds good. A /bin/unsquashfs would do the job for me. Can you please include that for the next release? Thanks! Regards, Clemens From aon at iki.fi Sat Nov 1 22:43:15 2008 From: aon at iki.fi (Antti =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nyk=E4nen?=) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:43:15 +0200 Subject: [crux-devel] A case against blackbox In-Reply-To: <3758e9fd0810280047t569f9895p78560d02fabb635c@mail.gmail.com> References: <3758e9fd0810280047t569f9895p78560d02fabb635c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081101224315.GA11596@poplar.aon.iki.fi> Hi, On 2008-10-28 at 08:47, Johannes Winkelmann wrote: > As for alternatives, openbox is high on my list, but has some more > dependencies (which are all already on the ISO though), but maybe > others can comment on that and suggest their preference +1 for Openbox - Antti From jjasghar at gmail.com Sat Nov 1 23:57:02 2008 From: jjasghar at gmail.com (JJ Asghar) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:57:02 -0500 Subject: [crux-devel] A case against blackbox In-Reply-To: <20081101224315.GA11596@poplar.aon.iki.fi> References: <3758e9fd0810280047t569f9895p78560d02fabb635c@mail.gmail.com> <20081101224315.GA11596@poplar.aon.iki.fi> Message-ID: <57680e350811011657i6a4f93fcxc6a1c852ffca6fee@mail.gmail.com> +1 openbox, libxml has to be installed but it really does express imo the crux mentality :) Best Regards, JJ Asghar phone: 1318B7682 On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Antti Nyk?nen wrote: > Hi, > > On 2008-10-28 at 08:47, Johannes Winkelmann wrote: >> As for alternatives, openbox is high on my list, but has some more >> dependencies (which are all already on the ISO though), but maybe >> others can comment on that and suggest their preference > > +1 for Openbox > > - Antti > _______________________________________________ > crux-devel mailing list > crux-devel at lists.crux.nu > http://lists.crux.nu/mailman/listinfo/crux-devel > From clemens.ml at gmx.net Sun Nov 2 19:31:56 2008 From: clemens.ml at gmx.net (Clemens Koller) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:31:56 +0100 Subject: [crux-devel] add sourceforge to /etc/hosts for 2.5 Message-ID: <490E002C.2040805@gmx.net> Hi there! What about adding 193.1.193.66 download.sourceforge.net download.sf.net dl.sourceforge.net dl.sf.net to /etc/hosts for CRUX-2.5? I don't see any chance to get happy without a line like that and with every new installation, I tap into http://crux.nu/Wiki/Faq?from=Main.Faq#ntoc23 Regards, Clemens From crux at roliveira.eu Mon Nov 3 09:27:03 2008 From: crux at roliveira.eu (crux at roliveira.eu) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:27:03 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [crux-devel] add sourceforge to /etc/hosts for 2.5 In-Reply-To: <490E002C.2040805@gmx.net> References: <490E002C.2040805@gmx.net> Message-ID: <12699.82.155.229.21.1225704423.squirrel@roliveira.eu> > Hi there! > > What about adding > > 193.1.193.66 download.sourceforge.net download.sf.net dl.sourceforge.net > dl.sf.net > Clemens Hello, Using prdownloads.sourceforge.net instead of dl.sourceforge.net seems to solve the problem. Ricardo From crux at roliveira.eu Mon Nov 3 09:29:26 2008 From: crux at roliveira.eu (crux at roliveira.eu) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:29:26 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [crux-devel] add sourceforge to /etc/hosts for 2.5 In-Reply-To: <12699.82.155.229.21.1225704423.squirrel@roliveira.eu> References: <490E002C.2040805@gmx.net> <12699.82.155.229.21.1225704423.squirrel@roliveira.eu> Message-ID: <12785.82.155.229.21.1225704566.squirrel@roliveira.eu> > Using prdownloads.sourceforge.net instead of dl.sourceforge.net seems to > solve the problem. Just to add, I meant using prdownloads.sourceforge.net on the Pkgfile, I think it was not clear on the previous e-mail. R From tilman at crux.nu Thu Nov 6 20:52:54 2008 From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:52:54 +0100 Subject: [crux-devel] ANN: CRUX 2.5-test3 Message-ID: <20081106205253.GA32313@code-monkey.de> Hi, we are pleased to announce the third test release of the upcoming CRUX 2.5 release. Please give it a try and report any problems you might find. Thanks, Tilman, for the CRUX team. [1] http://crux.nu/~jue/tmp/crux-2.5-test3.iso http://crux.nu/~jue/tmp/crux-2.5-test3.md5 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From richard.poettler at gmail.com Thu Nov 6 23:21:58 2008 From: richard.poettler at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Richard_P=C3=B6ttler?=) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 00:21:58 +0100 Subject: [crux-devel] ANN: CRUX 2.5-test3 In-Reply-To: <20081106205253.GA32313@code-monkey.de> References: <20081106205253.GA32313@code-monkey.de> Message-ID: <5f52f29b0811061521l6ab56c2pd216f8aa5995ab3b@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > we are pleased to announce the third test release of the upcoming > CRUX 2.5 release. > > Please give it a try and report any problems you might find. I will test it, if i got time this we. Just a short question: Is the git ports driver in? bye richi (namenlos) From sepen at users.sourceforge.net Sat Nov 8 00:42:00 2008 From: sepen at users.sourceforge.net (Jose V Beneyto) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:42:00 +0100 Subject: [crux-devel] CRUX 2.5: usbdisk images Message-ID: <4914E058.4090704@users.sourceforge.net> Hi, I uploaded some images for booting 2.5 from usbdisk. http://crux.nu/~sepen/tmp/crux-2.5-test2.usbdisk.img http://crux.nu/~sepen/tmp/crux-2.5-test2.usbdisk.md5 http://crux.nu/~sepen/tmp/crux-2.5-test3.usbdisk.img http://crux.nu/~sepen/tmp/crux-2.5-test3.usbdisk.md5 If you are interested and want to test it, you will need a usb boot capable bios and a usbdisk greater than 260MB. Then use 'dd' to create the installation media on the usb stick: $ sudo dd if=crux-2.5-test3.usbdisk.img og=/dev/XXX (where XXX is your usbdisk device) * you shouldn't use a normal partition with the stick, just use 'sda', 'sdb', etc. instead of 'sda1', ... I made a 'make_usbdisk' script for easily generate these images from the iso images, but I'm still __working on it__. So maybe some stuff like 'net-setup' could not work without arguments. Then all you need is to specify an alternate value for the 'crux_dir' variable ('/cdrom/crux' as default).You can also make a symlink to '/usbdisk' in order to have the '/cdrom' directory necessary for the fake cdrom environment. I'll glad to see your opinions and results. Best regards, Jose V Beneyto From tilman at crux.nu Sat Nov 8 09:45:41 2008 From: tilman at crux.nu (Tilman Sauerbeck) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:45:41 +0100 Subject: [crux-devel] Does anyone want to adopt the directfb port? Message-ID: <20081108094540.GA1176@code-monkey.de> Hi, I'm just going through our open bug reports and I saw that #225 is still open. Clearly I'm not interested in directfb enough, so I won't maintain it in 2.5 anymore. Does anyone want to adopt the port (opt or contrib)? IIRC Victor Martinez was interested in it in February -- are you still interested now Victor? Regards, Tilman [1] http://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=225 -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pitillo at ono.com Sat Nov 8 16:07:01 2008 From: pitillo at ono.com (Victor Martinez) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 17:07:01 +0100 Subject: [crux-devel] Does anyone want to adopt the directfb port? In-Reply-To: <20081108094540.GA1176@code-monkey.de> References: <20081108094540.GA1176@code-monkey.de> Message-ID: <20081108170701.9ffa7bf4.pitillo@ono.com> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:45:41 +0100 Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > Hi, Hello Tilman, > I'm just going through our open bug reports and I saw that #225 is still > open. Clearly I'm not interested in directfb enough, so I won't maintain > it in 2.5 anymore. > > Does anyone want to adopt the port (opt or contrib)? IIRC Victor > Martinez was interested in it in February -- are you still interested > now Victor? I checked directfb in that date and made that little report, I dont use that port. Feel free to remove it. > > Regards, > Tilman > Regards, Victor. > [1] http://crux.nu/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=225 > > -- > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? > -- Learning bit by bit. Victor Martinez From crux at roliveira.eu Tue Nov 18 16:25:07 2008 From: crux at roliveira.eu (Ricardo Oliveira) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:25:07 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [crux-devel] Notes about test3 Message-ID: <33606.82.155.231.220.1227025507.squirrel@webmail.roliveira.eu> Hello, I just wanted to leave some feedback about the test3 iso. First I have noticed that mkfs.ext3 (and not only ext3) takes an abnormal amount of time to make the fs...This was pretty fast on 2.4. The boot from the cd is also somewhat slower. The kernel compile process fails if squashfs is enabled in the config. BTW is there any use for squashfs, is it worth having this enabled in the kernel? Regards, From jue at jue.li Tue Nov 18 17:18:30 2008 From: jue at jue.li (Juergen Daubert) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:18:30 +0100 Subject: [crux-devel] Notes about test3 In-Reply-To: <33606.82.155.231.220.1227025507.squirrel@webmail.roliveira.eu> References: <33606.82.155.231.220.1227025507.squirrel@webmail.roliveira.eu> Message-ID: <20081118171830.GA2541@jue.netz> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:25:07PM -0000, Ricardo Oliveira wrote: Hello Ricardo, > Hello, I just wanted to leave some feedback about the test3 iso. thanks for the report and testing. > First I have noticed that mkfs.ext3 (and not only ext3) takes an abnormal > amount of time to make the fs...This was pretty fast on 2.4. That's something I cannot reproduce. Formating a 10G partition with ext3 took around 5.6 sec for me with a installed CRUX 2.4 and 2.5, the same time for formating with a booted test3. > The boot from the cd is also somewhat slower. > The kernel compile process fails if squashfs is enabled in the config. BTW > is there any use for squashfs, is it worth having this enabled in the > kernel? The supplied kernel config is the one we are using for the iso, you have to apply the squasfs patch to the kernel sources in order to use it. But indeed not very useful for a "normal" kernel. best regards Juergen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue at jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux From crux at roliveira.eu Tue Nov 18 20:43:55 2008 From: crux at roliveira.eu (Ricardo Oliveira) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:43:55 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [crux-devel] Notes about test3 Message-ID: <59541.89.214.203.217.1227041035.squirrel@webmail.roliveira.eu> > thanks for the report and testing. no problem! > That's something I cannot reproduce. Formating a 10G partition with ext3 took around 5.6 sec for me with a installed CRUX 2.4 and 2.5, the same time for formating with a booted test3. I made a quick measure of the "problems" i mentioned, the results: Machine #1 Boot until prompt: 2.4: 39 sec 2.5 TEST3: 1 min, 4 sec mkfs.ext3 29000MB partition 2.4: 27 sec 2.5 TEST3: 3 min, 09 sec !! Machine #2 Boot until prompt: 2.4: 30 sec 2.5: 39.6 sec mkfs.ext3 26560MB partition 2.4: 24.9 sec 2.5 TEST3: 3 min, 27 sec !! I haven`t timed the install process, but it also seems to be slower. > The supplied kernel config is the one we are using for the iso, you have to apply the squasfs patch to the kernel sources in order to use it. But indeed not very useful for a "normal" kernel. Thanks for the clarification. > best regards > Juergen Regards, From fredrik at obra.se Tue Nov 18 21:05:01 2008 From: fredrik at obra.se (Fredrik Rinnestam) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:05:01 +0100 Subject: [crux-devel] Notes about test3 In-Reply-To: <59541.89.214.203.217.1227041035.squirrel@webmail.roliveira.eu> References: <59541.89.214.203.217.1227041035.squirrel@webmail.roliveira.eu> Message-ID: <20081118210501.GA27677@zoidberg.obra.se> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 08:43:55PM -0000, Ricardo Oliveira wrote: > Machine #1 > Boot until prompt: > 2.4: 39 sec > 2.5 TEST3: 1 min, 4 sec > > mkfs.ext3 29000MB partition > 2.4: 27 sec > 2.5 TEST3: 3 min, 09 sec !! > > Machine #2 > Boot until prompt: > 2.4: 30 sec > 2.5: 39.6 sec > > mkfs.ext3 26560MB partition > 2.4: 24.9 sec > 2.5 TEST3: 3 min, 27 sec !! > is the mkfs.ext3 process this slow on your normal crux-install with e2fsprogs 1.41.3 (i assume this is the version on the iso)? Or is this issue limited just to the iso? What kind of ata/scsi-controller are you using? -- /Fredrik Rinnestam This email was spied upon by FRA - Sweden's own STASI. Enjoy! From crux at roliveira.eu Wed Nov 19 12:54:00 2008 From: crux at roliveira.eu (Ricardo Oliveira) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:54:00 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [crux-devel] Notes about test3 In-Reply-To: <20081118210501.GA27677@zoidberg.obra.se> References: <59541.89.214.203.217.1227041035.squirrel@webmail.roliveira.eu> <20081118210501.GA27677@zoidberg.obra.se> Message-ID: <49357.82.155.231.220.1227099240.squirrel@webmail.roliveira.eu> > is the mkfs.ext3 process this slow on your normal crux-install with > e2fsprogs 1.41.3 (i assume this is the version on the iso)? Or is this > issue limited just to the iso? What kind of ata/scsi-controller are you > using? > > /Fredrik Rinnestam Hello Fredrik, Yes, e2fsprogs 1.41.3 is also slow with the installed system. About the controller, I don`t see how it might be important for the problem. The issue is a difference in performance from 1.40.2 to 1.41.3 both on my laptop and on my desktop. No one else has this "problem"? Regards From jue at jue.li Tue Nov 25 09:11:35 2008 From: jue at jue.li (Juergen Daubert) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:11:35 +0100 Subject: [crux-devel] IRC meeting reminder Message-ID: <20081125091135.GA11186@jue.netz> Hello, Here's a reminder for our IRC meeting today. Main topic is our upcoming release, in particular two potentially but not so trivial last minute changes: * update to glibc 2.9 * hotplug-capable xorg-server Looking forward to seeing you at 20 CEST in #crux-devel. Greetings Juergen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue at jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux From jue at jue.li Wed Nov 26 11:51:39 2008 From: jue at jue.li (Juergen Daubert) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:51:39 +0100 Subject: [crux-devel] Meeting notes 2008-11-25 Message-ID: <20081126115139.GA8472@jue.netz> Hello, a quick summary of our IRC meeting from yesterday: 1. glibc 2.9 for CRUX 2.5 have done some test with mixed results. All core ports compile fine, but at least one program (mc) is partly broken with 2.9. Because we do not want a delay in the release process of 2.5 we decided to stick with 2.8. 2. hotplug-capable xorg-server is easy to build, just compile xorg-server after installing dbus and hal with deps. To use the feature both daemons must run at start-up of X, which means that a entry in SERVICES should be added as a default. That again would require that dbus and hal become core ports, which we don't want. We change nothing, but Tilman will add a wiki page how to build the xorg-server with hotplug capabilities. 3. Matt volunteers to build a 2.5 release candidate as soon as possible, if we do not run in bigger problems with that, the final should be possible within 2 weeks. Greetings Juergen -- Juergen Daubert | mailto:jue at jue.li Korb, Germany | http://jue.li/crux