From jjones at djc.state.id.us Mon Nov 15 18:13:37 2004 From: jjones at djc.state.id.us (Jeremy Jones) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:13:37 -0700 Subject: [Clc-crux64] anyone home? Message-ID: <1100542418.1182.4.camel@jjones-lnx.djc.state.id.us> is there anyone still actively working on porting crux to amd64? i'm getting tired of gentoo on my 64bit box, so it's about time i get busy with it. but i'd rather not re-invent the wheel if anyone's gone and finished up a port... jeremy From maol at symlink.ch Mon Nov 15 20:32:04 2004 From: maol at symlink.ch (Markus Ackermann) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:32:04 +0100 Subject: [Clc-crux64] anyone home? In-Reply-To: <1100542418.1182.4.camel@jjones-lnx.djc.state.id.us> References: <1100542418.1182.4.camel@jjones-lnx.djc.state.id.us> Message-ID: <41991244.9030204@symlink.ch> Jeremy Jones schrieb: > is there anyone still actively working on porting crux to amd64? i'm > getting tired of gentoo on my 64bit box, so it's about time i get busy > with it. but i'd rather not re-invent the wheel if anyone's gone and > finished up a port... I'm not working on it - 32bit software is as fast as 64bit sw, and I'm not using anything which profits from 64bits... Markus. From mathu at gmx.ch Tue Nov 16 14:13:50 2004 From: mathu at gmx.ch (Mathias Herzog) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:13:50 +0100 Subject: [Clc-crux64] anyone home? Message-ID: <419A0B1E.2050601@gmx.ch> hey, I subscribed to the list a few minutes ago and saw the "anyone home" post in the archive. My new AMD64 just arrived this morning and I'd like to get a CRUX 64bit up and running, but first I will install a clean 32bit version to get a stable basis. So I will start working with 64bit as soon as possible, hopefully there's a bit more activity on the list in the near future. regards, Mathias From lsantil at dslextreme.com Tue Nov 16 13:33:38 2004 From: lsantil at dslextreme.com (lsantil at dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 05:33:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Clc-crux64] anyone home? In-Reply-To: <41991244.9030204@symlink.ch> References: <1100542418.1182.4.camel@jjones-lnx.djc.state.id.us> <41991244.9030204@symlink.ch> Message-ID: <61558.137.79.37.193.1100612018.squirrel@www.dslextreme.com> I did some initial work to get some of the ports up and running. I'll admit to not having time to do anything since early September. There once was a link to what I had done but I am unsure if it is still available. I can pass on what I have to anyone who want to pick it up. I'll also admit however, that 64-bit is a PITA right now (even on more established distributions) and 32-bit is better for software compatibility. 64-bit does improve large integer intensive apps as well as memory intensive apps. Unfortunately, most of those improvements are rarely seen on a desktop machine (database servers and web servers would see more improvement). Louis > Jeremy Jones schrieb: >> is there anyone still actively working on porting crux to amd64? i'm >> getting tired of gentoo on my 64bit box, so it's about time i get busy >> with it. but i'd rather not re-invent the wheel if anyone's gone and >> finished up a port... > > I'm not working on it - 32bit software is as fast as 64bit sw, > and I'm not using anything which profits from 64bits... > > Markus. > _______________________________________________ > Clc-crux64 mailing list > Clc-crux64 at lists.berlios.de > http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/clc-crux64 > > From mattias at hedenskog.se Wed Nov 17 00:08:54 2004 From: mattias at hedenskog.se (Mattias Hedenskog) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:08:54 -0800 Subject: [Clc-crux64] Working copy of Crux/amd64... Message-ID: <20041117000854.GB1315@lendingresults.com> Hi Crux users As a recent subscriber to the crux64 mailing-list I decided to put some effort into this porting issue. I've mananged to get a working version up and running in pure 64-bit mode. But the system install in whole is far away from complete. The install still looks like a rabid dog. There are some packackes which I'm not able to compile yet such as traceroute. I was thinking about maybe replacing it with tcptraceroute(depends on libpcap) or something more powerful. I didn't even try to build some packages in /opt such as x11/pkgconfig because of broken mirrors. I'll post some patches and builds when I have time. // Mattias Hedenskog From jjones at djc.state.id.us Wed Nov 17 16:03:29 2004 From: jjones at djc.state.id.us (Jeremy Jones) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:03:29 -0700 Subject: [Clc-crux64] Working copy of Crux/amd64... In-Reply-To: <20041117000854.GB1315@lendingresults.com> References: <20041117000854.GB1315@lendingresults.com> Message-ID: <1100707409.27425.7.camel@jjones-lnx.djc.state.id.us> morning all, On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 16:08 -0800, Mattias Hedenskog wrote: > Hi Crux users > > As a recent subscriber to the crux64 mailing-list I decided > to put some effort into this porting issue. I've mananged to > get a working version up and running in pure 64-bit mode. have you fiddled with getting mixed 32/64 bit multilib stuff working? > But the system install > in whole is far away from complete. The install still looks > like a rabid dog. There are some packackes which I'm not able to compile > yet such as traceroute. > I was thinking about maybe > replacing it with tcptraceroute(depends on libpcap) or something more powerful. > I didn't even try to build some packages in /opt such as > x11/pkgconfig because of broken mirrors. I'll post some > patches and builds when I have time. what host system did you build from? i've started a couple times, once from a 32-bit crux system, using a cross compiler -- didn't get too far; and again from gentoo-64. that's where i'm at now -- a gentoo 64 base system, a sort of modified linuxfromscratch setup, & a static 32bit pkgutils from the crux-2.0 cd (couldn't build pkgutils from gentoo's amd64 system). just barely getting started trying to get a pure 64 bit glibc for the target. if you have the space/bandwidth, would you mind throwing up your compiled packages and ports collection somewhere? i could donate some space, if you need. > > // Mattias Hedenskog > _______________________________________________ > Clc-crux64 mailing list > Clc-crux64 at lists.berlios.de > http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/clc-crux64 -- Jeremy Jones IT Systems Integration Analyst, Senior Idaho Department of Juvenile Corrections (208) 465-8443 x154 From mattias at hedenskog.se Thu Nov 18 00:22:20 2004 From: mattias at hedenskog.se (Mattias Hedenskog) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:22:20 -0800 Subject: [Clc-crux64] Working copy of Crux/amd64... In-Reply-To: <1100707409.27425.7.camel@jjones-lnx.djc.state.id.us> References: <20041117000854.GB1315@lendingresults.com> <1100707409.27425.7.camel@jjones-lnx.djc.state.id.us> Message-ID: <20041118002220.GA5916@lendingresults.com> On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 09:03:29AM -0700, Jeremy Jones wrote: > morning all, Good evening. > > On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 16:08 -0800, Mattias Hedenskog wrote: > > Hi Crux users > > > > As a recent subscriber to the crux64 mailing-list I decided > > to put some effort into this porting issue. I've mananged to > > get a working version up and running in pure 64-bit mode. > > have you fiddled with getting mixed 32/64 bit multilib stuff working? Yes. But I think I approached getting this to work in a wrong way because I didn't care to test the 64-bit environment in an extensive matter before I dived into the bi-arch mess. I'm currently building/testing on a fresh gentoo/amd64 system as we speak. I unfortunately managed to mess up the working install way beyond what I thought was possible. The tough question resides though, how to actually make the bi-arch platform play well. I found some material on http://www.linuxbase.org/~taggart/multiarch.html that explains a good solution for the lib structure itself. > > > But the system install > > in whole is far away from complete. The install still looks > > like a rabid dog. There are some packackes which I'm not able to compile > > yet such as traceroute. > > I was thinking about maybe > > replacing it with tcptraceroute(depends on libpcap) or something more powerful. > > I didn't even try to build some packages in /opt such as > > x11/pkgconfig because of broken mirrors. I'll post some > > patches and builds when I have time. > > what host system did you build from? i've started a couple times, once > from a 32-bit crux system, using a cross compiler -- didn't get too far; > and again from gentoo-64. that's where i'm at now -- a gentoo 64 base > system, a sort of modified linuxfromscratch setup, & a static 32bit > pkgutils from the crux-2.0 cd (couldn't build pkgutils from gentoo's > amd64 system). just barely getting started trying to get a pure 64 bit > glibc for the target. > I'm using the same method as you. Compiling/testing in a 64-bit environment makes the process a lot easier. After the bootstrap/iso making I just chrooted in the new install and configured the system from there(kernel/lilo/misc-etcjunk. It boots fine in lilo though. I seriously need to buy some cdr's and burn the iso to see if it really boots off the cd. ;) Perhaps there are some nifty patch sets in gentoo's portage that we can make use of? Anyways, Here's what I got.. Here are some semi current builds.. http://magog.se/crux-amd64/ // Mattias > if you have the space/bandwidth, would you mind throwing up your > compiled packages and ports collection somewhere? i could donate some > space, if you need. > > > > > > // Mattias Hedenskog > > _______________________________________________ > > Clc-crux64 mailing list > > Clc-crux64 at lists.berlios.de > > http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/clc-crux64 > -- > Jeremy Jones > IT Systems Integration Analyst, Senior > Idaho Department of Juvenile Corrections > (208) 465-8443 x154 > > _______________________________________________ > Clc-crux64 mailing list > Clc-crux64 at lists.berlios.de > http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/clc-crux64 From t.mausbach at netcologne.de Thu Nov 18 10:46:42 2004 From: t.mausbach at netcologne.de (Thomas Mausbach) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:46:42 +0100 Subject: [Clc-crux64] some Crux64 allready done... Message-ID: <1100774802.419c7d9246376@netmail1.netcologne.de> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mattias at hedenskog.se Sun Nov 21 08:46:11 2004 From: mattias at hedenskog.se (Mattias Hedenskog) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 00:46:11 -0800 Subject: [Clc-crux64] I found the missing crux-amd64 iso. Please test it. Message-ID: <20041121084611.GA20661@lendingresults.com> Morning I finally found the old iso image stashed away on another box. Since I no longer have access to an AMD64(tm) machine I can't clean up my own mess but hopefully one of you will. It's availible through download at http://magog.se/crux-amd64/iso/ If anybody have a fast mirror and are willing to share some bandwidth please do ;P Cheers // Mattias