On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:44:03AM +0200, jideel@free.fr wrote:
Hello,
I'm a new CRUX user, and first, i would like to thank you for making this distribution. I used Slackware, Gentoo and Arch in the past, but was disappointed by the direction chosen by Arch, and the current over-complexification of most Linux distributions. So it's pleasure to find (again) a simple but modern distribution. I didn't even know Arch was CRUX-based... I've encountered no issues while using CRUX on the server side, but on the desktop side, i tried to use XFCE 4.10 from ports (http://crux.nu/portdb/?a=repo&q=xfce, depinst), and while it works, it doesn't look that good. For instance a lot of icons are missing. Here's what i have :http://imgur.com/zsHEEgX And what i would like : http://imgur.com/ulhWqar Can someone point me to the missing package ? Do you know how to make XFCE looks like the second screenshot (dark panel on top and transparent panel on bottom) ? Thank you, Best regards.
I don't have too much authority here since I'm not a Crux developer-maintainer but, anyway, I'll say what I think for the sake of all. Sorry if I sound rude, it's not my intention to offend. You criticize the bloating and at the same time you want a fully featured desktop environment, and working out of the box. All has a price my friend. Years ago I've wrote this: http://roquesor.com/linux-7.php I was defending that idea along the years and today I'm more convinced than ever that I was right. For example, big Linux distributions have bloated sysv-init to give users an out of the box experience with MSWin alike desktops. Just to win market. Now to clean the mess they invented systemd. The result of that strategy? MSWin users still have MSWin plus a fake MSWin called Linux, while those that know and value a Unix like OS have nothing. So, don't do what Slackware users, that pretend to defend the Unix philosophy just with their mouthes. To avoid the bloating we need to preserve the Unix idea educating new users. Entertaining them with toy desktops like Xfce, KDE or Gnome is not the way. Friendly interfaces keep users ignorant. For example, just reading your message I see you ignore how to use a text editor and the correct way to send an email. I use FVWM, that is not included in Crux, but it's not a problem for me since downloading it form FVWM site and compiling it take less than a minute. Got the idea? Walter