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[clc-devel] Project: ports database for crux.nu
by Till Biedermann 27 Nov '05

27 Nov '05

Hi everybody, because we (finally ;-) ) have a new website, it's time to get the things rolling. To get started we should discuss some things like features, implementation and integration. I described my ideas for this project in form of a whitepaper. http://www.still2come.net/~till/temp/Ports-Database_Whitepaper.pdf To come to the point: I'd like to shoulder the responsibility for this project. Do you agree with that? No matter who will be the maintainer of the database project, I will contribute in any case. Based on my whitepaper I suggest this points as roadmap: (in wise foresight - dateless :-) ) - decide which database to use - determine database structure - setup the database - implement and setup a frequent database update - setup the web-frontend as wiki-page - implement advanced features like statistics and CLI-access Regards Till -- http://www.tbmnet.de ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de

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[clc-devel] Re: [CRUX] #4: Testing e-mail notification
by CRUX 27 Nov '05

27 Nov '05

#4: Testing e-mail notification ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Id: 4 | Status: closed Component: doc / website | Modified: Sun Nov 27 15:48:36 2005 Severity: normal | Milestone: Priority: normal | Version: Owner: jw | Reporter: jw ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Changes (by jw): * resolution: => fixed * status: reopened => closed Old description: > test New description: test It seems that notifications work; sorry for the noise. -- Ticket URL: <http://crux.nu/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/4> CRUX <http://example.com/> CRUX

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[clc-devel] Re: [CRUX] #4: Testing e-mail notification
by CRUX 27 Nov '05

27 Nov '05

#4: Testing e-mail notification ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Id: 4 | Status: reopened Component: doc / website | Modified: Sun Nov 27 15:45:10 2005 Severity: normal | Milestone: Priority: normal | Version: Owner: jw | Reporter: jw ---------------------------+------------------------------------------------ Changes (by jw): * resolution: invalid => * status: closed => reopened -- Ticket URL: <http://crux.nu/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/4> CRUX <http://example.com/> CRUX

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[clc-devel] proposal to replace libglut with freeglut
by Nick Steeves 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

Hi, I've read that the GLUT we're using isn't maintained anymore, and that it's license states that no one but the author can distribute a modified version. Apparently, the GLUT from Mesa-6.4 is identical to the one bundled with Mesa-6.2.1, (etc..), and that the version number this GLUT gives itself is 3.7--furthermore, this GLUT hasn't been update since 1998... The alternative is FreeGLUT (http://freeglut.sourceforge.net/) It sounds interesting--also interesting is that Novell/SuSE seems to have adopted it: http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/enterpriseserver/i386/freeglut… Ubuntu also uses it now: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/freeglut3 "This package has been replaced by ``freeglut3''" (http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/oldlibs/glutg3) Apparently the Freeglut project did some work to make fullscreen support better. AFAIK, libglut, freeglut, and nvidia conflict with each other, so this shouldn't affect the majority of users. (I assume ATI's binary drivers ship with their own GLUT library) I think that it would be a good thing for 3Dfx, Matrox, or ATI uers who use the kernel drivers. If this is really just a simple "sed -i '/libglut/freeglut/' */Pkgfile", can we do it? I'll role a freeglut port, and start testing it immediately if this is a possibility. If there's a time to do this, it's probably before we launch the new repository, right? (because then we can include the libglut to freeglut notice in the "migrating to the crux.nu SVN repository HOWTO". Cheers, Nick

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[clc-devel] Accounts on crux.nu for former CLC members
by Johannes Winkelmann 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Hi there, It's time to move to crux.nu for ports maintainance, and I'd like to ask all former CLC maintainers to send a quick mail mentioning whether they want to join the now unified CRUX project, and if they'd be interested in maintaining some of Per's ports from base or opt. We decided to maintain just two collections: 1) core: this collection contains more or less what's on the CD, and will be slighly bigger than the former base 2) opt: this is basically the old opt (minus what went into core), plus our former 'contrib'; most ports from you will probably go here. There's a subversion tutorial in the works at http://crux.nu/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/SvnHowTo Please ask if there are specific questions. Once you have an account on crux.nu, you'll be able to edit the Wiki, and depending on your access permissions you'll have access to several parts of the subversion repository. If you experience errors while commiting, please let me know; we might have minor errors in the access control setup, even though we've tested it and it seemed fine. I hope to hear from you soon, and that we'll manage to get the changes done as soon as possible. Since many things went quite fast and chances are we (I) haven't been too clear about certain things, please feel free to ask for clarifications if needed! Best regards, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@tks6.net Bern, Switzerland http://jw.tks6.net

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[clc-devel] If package fails to build in(under?)pretendroot,is that considered a bug?
by Predrag Ivanovic 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Hi. As subject line says.what do you guys think about that? I rarely have problems building packages using Han's modified pkgutils, and using pretendroot as safety net prevented few disasters with my own broken ports(I know,I know 'you learn from mistakes' <g>). Anyway,two packages I had problems with recently(both from base), groff and procps. First,groff. ---- <snip> || || test -d /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults || || || /bin/sh /usr/pkgmk/work/groff/src/groff-1.19.2/mkinstalldirs /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults if test -f /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/GXditview; then \ mv /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/GXditview /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/GXditview.old; \ fi /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 ./GXditview.ad /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/GXditview /usr/bin/install: cannot create regular file `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/GXditview': Permission denied make[2]: *** [install_data] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/pkgmk/work/groff/src/groff-1.19.2/src/devices/xditview' make [1]: *** [src/devices/xditview] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/pkgmk/work/groff/src/groff-1.19.2' make: *** [install] Error 2 =======> ERROR: Building `/usr/pkgmk/package/groff#1.19.2-1.pkg.tar.gz' failed, keeping workdirectory for inspection. =======> Leaving pretendroot environment -- Packages where update failed groff ---- And procps. ---- ldconfig make: ldconfig: Command not found make: *** [ldconfig] Error 127 =======> ERROR: Building `/usr/pkgmk/package/procps#3.2.6-1.pkg.tar.gz' failed, keeping workdirectory for inspection. =======> Leaving pretendroot environment -- Packages where update failed procps ---- Patches to make them compile cleanly(procps from errata repo,groff from Han's repo) are attached. Thank you for all your hard work,and if just made some noise,I am truly sorry. Pedja -- I'm no hero. I just like to hit people in the head.

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[clc-devel] CRUXCon 2005 results
by Johannes Winkelmann 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Hi, While Jay acted as official secretary for this year's cruxcon, I added a page with preliminary results at http://crux.nu/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/CruxCon2005Results You can expect this page to be extended by the others, but it should give you a little idea of the things we discussed. As always, please ask if you want clarifications and/or explanations. Kind regards, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@tks6.net Bern, Switzerland http://jw.tks6.net

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[clc-devel] danm's ports in attic
by Jukka Heino 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

Hi, I've imported Daniel Mueller's ports into the attic directory of the new Subversion repository. They include some pretty crucial things such as sysfsutils, so please take a look and see if there's something you could adopt. I guess danm will be back once a working multi-arch port system is ready. :) // Jukka

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[clc-devel] thoughts on CRUX, post devfs
by Nick Steeves 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

How soon should we begin to work on a devfs alternative? I've read that Per doesn't like udev. We'll want to at least provide the same level of functionality as devfs did, right? So a nice, clean /dev which reflects installed devices is absolutely paramount. Do we do it in tmpfs? Perhaps, after installation is complete, the user can be asked to run a command which populates a tmpfs mounted on /dev, with their device entries. Is cpio the fastest archiver? Would it slow down booting much, to dump the contents of an uncompressed cpio archive to this empty tmpfs? Because, this cpio archive of /dev could contain the contents of the afore-mentioned populated after scanning sysfs /dev. (perhaps /tmp/dev in that instance, so as not to disrupt the installation shell). Users could tweak permissions, and add additional device nodes--another command (or possibly a 2nd function/argument) could save the tmpfs /dev to the cpio archive, which would preserve permissions, etc. Like a one-time udev_start, without udevd, without hotplug, and with a command which (optionaly) re-saves its state, so that one doesn't need to muck with config files, because one mucks with the device nodes directly. It's just an idea to get a system running cleanly. Personally, I'm going to see how much I can tolerate udev before thinking about things more. P.S. CRUX 2.2 is about January-February far away, yeah? I hope we don't move to GCC4 until at least June. (but that's a huge change, which would probably be called CRUX 3.0, yes?)

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[clc-devel] New project & server
by Johannes Winkelmann 12 Nov '05

12 Nov '05

Hi there, Some "hot" news from CRUXCon 2005: We've moved the content of crux.nu and clc.morpheus.net to a new server, and merged the two projects into one. Since we've also updated DNS to point to the new page, here's some information which might be interesting to you: - we decided to switch to subversion, and trac as Wiki and Bug tracking system - we created a new collection called 'core', which contains ports included on the ISO - we imported pkgutils, ports, httpup, prt-get into the subversion repository Also, there's a group of "core maintainers" which will have access to the 'core' ports collection to update ports there and take some workload away from Per. Currently, it's just the four of us added there, but every CLC maintainer which is interested in helping out is a canditate for it (we just didn't want to add anyone there before asking you). We'll spend some more time discussion the new contrib, future package management and multi-architecture support tomorrow. There's a couple of things which remain to be done: - create the user accounts for the CLC members - import the contrib ports into subversion - make users switch to the svn ports tree - work on the wiki You're invited to browse through the wiki, comment and ask questions. There will be a more in depth summary later on :-). Hope you like it, Best regards, Johannes -- Johannes Winkelmann mailto:jw@tks6.net Bern, Switzerland http://jw.tks6.net

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